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    Ha, Twey,

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    Microsoft would never get away with it if they were selling something solid. It's all about software. 90% of people really do not have a clue about what makes a good piece of software -- or even that another piece of software that does the same thing, only better, exists. The latter is mostly because Microsoft like it that way. It's a form of brainwashing, and it is not acceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twey
    Yes -- in totally different directions, so that they're not compatible with anything else.
    I disagree, their more recent efforts appear to show a trend toward including the old proprietary methods that reflect that sentiment (for backward compatibility) as well as increasing accommodation of standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John
    their more recent efforts appear to show a trend toward including the old proprietary methods that reflect that sentiment (for backward compatibility) as well as increasing accommodation of standards.
    Not at all. They've only just made their homepage valid. IE7 will not support XHTML. The DOM layout and implementation are, as far as I know, still vastly different from those of every other browser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jscheuer1
    [T]heir more recent efforts appear to show a trend toward including the old proprietary methods that reflect that sentiment (for backward compatibility) as well as increasing accommodation of standards.
    The problem, though, is that many proprietary features are in direct opposition to the standardised mechanisms that should replace them.

    Microsoft are well-known for their reluctance to break compatibility. If circumstances were different, that attitude would be positive; admirable, even. But as they are, a clean break is what Microsoft should aim to do.

    When Microsoft introduced DOCTYPE switching into IE, they probably should have made the break then: drop all of the chaff that developers shouldn't be using and implement things as specified. If legacy material couldn't be reworked, authors could still use Quirks mode.

    Hopefully, when Microsoft get around to implementing XHTML properly, they'll do it then. They'd damn well better use a conforming XML processor. More catering to the ignorant is the last thing the Web needs. The realm of tag-soup can continue to deal with that.

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    Seems to be just a matter of the pace of change then really. Like it or not, MS has successfully captured the lion's share of the market, the fact that they are changing at all is perhaps a sign of FF's surge or perhaps just good sense on MS's part. To abandon the proprietary features to quirks mode only would probably be a mistake though, as it would virtually close the door on developing coders that are coming from an IE only world from even experimenting with standards.
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    Monopoly. Bad one at that.

    Not a good thing.

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    so, does nobody else use Notepad? or, is it just that notepad is harder with larger scale websites. ive never used anything other than dreamweaver which i dislike very much and notepad. ive also never created a professionaly website.

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    Sure... notepad is fine. I find it boring to look at for too long... but it's fine.

    My preference is using dreamweaver's code view so it color codes the stuff as I type... makes it just a bit more visual (and interesting).

    Notepad is fine, though.

    however, I'd recommend using something (wordpad is like notepad, but a bit more advanced) that can use tabs, so you can organize your code.
    html (etc) files support this, but, sadly, notepad doesn't, so it's a bit of a pain.

    But some people love notepad...


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    Quote Originally Posted by darco9x2
    so, does nobody else use Notepad? or, is it just that notepad is harder with larger scale websites. ive never used anything other than dreamweaver which i dislike very much and notepad. ive also never created a professionaly website.
    I would recommend a text editor written specifically for or easily adapted to the code language(s) you wish to write in. Edit Pad Pro is good.
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