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    two quick things here:
    1) nothing puts the fear of god in a man like threat of death.
    2) another point is that 22 years is not necessaries long enough for someone to die, therefore life sentence != death and as such is not on the same level when it comes to punishment.
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    I think they're not equal. One could say I'm cynical about the ability of the justice system to mete out the death penalty fairly. Or that I'm realistic about it. Either way the facts remain the same. Poor people are put to death, rich people are not. More blacks than whites are put to death. Are these groups somehow more deserving of the death penalty? But that's only part of my reasoning on why the death penalty is a bad idea. Unless you have some need to see people put to death, it's sufficient in itself though.
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    And that is more encroaching onto the issue of equality in the court system than the argument about whether or not the death penalty is right.
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    So let's keep killing people in the meantime.
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    1) nothing puts the fear of god in a man like threat of death.
    But why kill them in the first place?
    Is it to punish them? Which is more of a punishment, being put in prison for decades or dying?
    Is it to prevent murders? As I said before, a majority of all murders aren't pre-meditated, so this doesn't help.

    If an innocent person is put into prison, they can be compensated and released.
    If an innocent person is killed, what do you do then?

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    Because they have killed multiple people.
    To the second part however, this argument is more about the death sentence for pre-meditated murders, hence your argument there is invalid.
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    You're focusing on an eye for an eye, look at my sub points.
    Someone can be wrongly accused for pre-meditated murder just as much as other murder, so it isn't invalid.

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    Really, that fear of God statement is just an old saw. There's a grain of truth to it, but it doesn't hold true in all situations. Sometimes the threat of death brings one closer to God. Not in fear but in the knowledge that you are in fact getting closer to God. To others it's a challenge. It obviously doesn't work to prevent murders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jscheuer1 View Post
    Really, that fear of God statement is just an old saw. There's a grain of truth to it, but it doesn't hold true in all situations. Sometimes the threat of death brings one closer to God. Not in fear but in the knowledge that you are in fact getting closer to God. To others it's a challenge. It obviously doesn't work to prevent murders.
    I am using the phrase fear of god here, not necessarily in relation to god, but to their lives. It is more of a punishment to know that you are going to die than that your just going to sit in prison for a couple of decades.

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    You're focusing on an eye for an eye, look at my sub points.
    Someone can be wrongly accused for pre-meditated murder just as much as other murder, so it isn't invalid.
    The point here is that we are focusing on people who are guilty of pre-mediated murder and whether they should get the death sentence.
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    And I'm saying that you have to factor in that people might be wrongly accused.

    I ask you this;
    When you say people should recieve the death penalty for pre-meditated murder, is it because you don't want them to kill anyone else or because they should be punished for killing?

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