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    Quote Originally Posted by jscheuer1 View Post
    Hmm . . . traq rhymes with hack - a coincidence? I think not!
    I always thought the a in his name was pronounced ah... Traq?

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    I once saw something on the TV show CSI - the original Las Vegas version. They were using a web based service to get detailed satellite maps. I saw the address of the website. It was real. However, the service was for government and business use only. I played around with it a bit until I got a pulsing popup message:

    "We take having fun seriously."

    Which was completely out of context for what you might usually think. I got the message though and have never been back.
    I don't get the "We take having fun seriously"???

    Anyway, I'm not talking about the ethical defintion of hacking - I'm talking about the bottom line of what is considered hacking... but oh well

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyboard1333 View Post
    I don't get the "We take having fun seriously"???
    "You might consider this "just for fun," but we don't." ...?

    Quote Originally Posted by keyboard1333 View Post
    Anyway, I'm not talking about the ethical defintion of hacking - I'm talking about the bottom line of what is considered hacking... but oh well
    I understand. Hacking is finding and exploiting weaknesses in code, which I think matches what's going on pretty well. Difficulty is another issue. As John says, the main thing is we just need to remember not to step on anyone's toes around here (or anywhere).

    Quote Originally Posted by keyboard1333 View Post
    I always thought the a in his name was pronounced ah... Traq?
    I don't really know how it's pronounced

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    gosh darn it, I leave you guys alone for a couple of hours and you start talking about hacking? Seriously? You John, are now banned from watching CSI, that show is giving you some bad ideas.
    As for typing hacked on people's walls, when they're away from the computer, I believe the term is being a hacxor1337.

    As for traq, I believe it is pronounced "T-R-A-Q" as in walrus, or goldfish
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    Quote Originally Posted by traq View Post
    "You might consider this "just for fun," but we don't." ...?
    That's what I understood it to mean. I was using their service to look at their own facilities. I guess I left that part out. If anyone is still unclear about it, well then, "You had to be there."

    Quote Originally Posted by traq View Post
    I understand. Hacking is finding and exploiting weaknesses in code, which I think matches what's going on pretty well. Difficulty is another issue. As John says, the main thing is we just need to remember not to step on anyone's toes around here (or anywhere).
    Yes I meant it as an amusing story, and a cautionary tale. Around here the worst thing that would probably happen is you get banned from the forum, and for that you would have to do something pretty bad and ignore all warnings/requests to stop. Out there in the wider world, even innocent stuff can have intense consequences. Once you set the wheels in motion, you might not be able to stop them. They could roll right over you.

    To me hacking also takes advantage of the strengths of code. Weaknesses in security get you in, but it's usually pretty amazing what a program does. It's satisfying understanding the code and getting that to work for you.

    The kind of hacking I usually do is with code that's not intended to be secure, like the scripts here. If you're good and the code is too, you can often use a script's own methods to do what you want without having to edit the code. Just make a tie in.

    Quote Originally Posted by traq View Post
    I don't really know how it's pronounced
    I just assumed it was like "track" with a hard q. I have some funny made up names for some of the people in here. Nothing for regular folks though. Can't think of any of them at the moment. But a lot of them are just like one or two letters or a slight adjustment of syllables off of some pretty funny things.
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    alright then, quote everyone but me, I know when I'm not wanted
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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie1227 View Post
    alright then, quote everyone but me, I know when I'm not wanted
    I hope you're kidding, but if you're not I hope you're happy now.
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    don't worry, I'm kidding
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    Wow, this is a strange conversation...
    And I'd hardly call it hacking anyhow, as John told me how to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyboard1333 View Post
    Wow, this is a strange conversation...
    And I'd hardly call it hacking anyhow, as John told me how to do it
    Oh, so now I'm the hacker . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie1227 View Post
    As for traq, I believe it is pronounced "T-R-A-Q" as in walrus, or goldfish
    yeah, probably.

    BTW I forgot to include this last night (your "hacxor" comment reminded me)

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