photographer and ex-web geek thought he could make a website...

**chadboutin** · 05-08-2008, 06:12 PM

Hey guys, My name is chad boutin, I am a photographer in the NW and thought one day after being at the mercy of my "graphic designer" friends for a website update. After many self induced web failures and horrible continuity... I started telling myself "You can do it.. its just a website, make something simple, html only, clean, your a photographer, show images.. thats it.

Being a former computer club president in 1986, I thought to myself.. "You programmed hand code basic at the age of 14, cmon, its html, how hard is it?

Im so pissed.

Here's my need.

a menu. thats it, you go to my url and its an opening image and a menu, maybe its hidden, maybe its industrial and grey and simple.

Ok, sounds easy... I code one. Simply, with a script found online. simplify the colors... it works.

Then I figure, lets have two horisontal frames... 20 percent top... 80 down, top contains a menu (hey ive built this!) bottom is premade flash slideshows made in adobe lightroom already built and hosted on my server.

for instance, http://www.chadboutin.com/lifestyle/

Ive fit them in a frame by just inserting the code inside the frameset.

<frame src="http://www.chadboutin.com/lifestyle">

But for the life of me, i cant get the target to produce in that page.. I tried loading the nav.html(the fancy menu im trying to use) into a frame..

Now here is where i humble myself to ridicule, the same shame I pour intensely on any amateur Photographer I find trying to do things i do with the tools and experience I have at my disposal..

I kneel in pity and the obvious error of mixing coding metaphors...

my (crappy ass) website www.chadboutin.com

where i want to go

http://www.chadboutin.com/turf/

if i could manipulate these lightroom galleries, i would.. but i cant, and I would like to keep some controll over the website so I can update...

siggghh...

thanks

**Medyman** · 05-08-2008, 07:29 PM

Nice story/rant...

What's the question, exactly? We don't need the entire narrative/back-story to help. But do need the technical details of what it is you're trying to do and what's not working.

**chadboutin** · 05-08-2008, 08:02 PM

basically i am trying to have a navigation in a (upper) frame directing the external menu option to the second window (lower)

horizontal frames two rows.

<frameset rows="20%,*">
<frame src="upper">
<frame src="lower">
</frameset>

upper frame carries a menu or a navigation of some kind... maybe like..

http://www.chadboutin.com/website/navigator.html

lower carries a flash based auto sizing player made in lightroom.

http://www.chadboutin.com/lifestyle

or

http://www.chadboutin.com/turf/

I just want to have the menu direct to the lower frame..

image based portfolio presentation..

**Medyman** · 05-08-2008, 10:50 PM

Ahh, I see..

HTML Code:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Chad Boutin Photography</title>
</head>

<frameset rows="20%,*">
<frame src="http://www.chadboutin.com/website/navigator.html">
<frame src="http://www.chadboutin.com/turf/" name="bottom">
</frameset>

</html>

In your menu, change the onChange javascript to this:

Code:

onChange="window.open(document.begin.menu.options[document.begin.menu.selectedIndex].value, 'bottom')

By the way you might want to read this about the pros/cons of using frames. I tend to stay far far away from them because they cause more trouble than I find they're worth. You can make an informed decision after reading that article.

**chadboutin** · 05-08-2008, 11:14 PM

im not married to frames... just need a nudge in the right direction...

suggestions?

**hyk** · 05-09-2008, 03:23 AM

Hi there,

Sorry to bump in with no suggestions

. let me just give some comments & i`m off. your photographs were very nicely taken. great job

keep up the good work & good luck for your galley

**Medyman** · 05-09-2008, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by chadboutin

im not married to frames... just need a nudge in the right direction...

suggestions?

Do you have PHP available on your server? If you're not sure you can run a simple test.

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