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    well i would go for vista its got alot of cool things ppl dont really realize.
    my favorite is that if you put in a flash drive it can use it as ram. i love that feature personally. ive got 4 gigs in plus my 8 gig flash.....its amazing. not to mention my 250 gig external hard drive(about 200 bucks) and my internal hard drive.
    also it is capable of running 64 bit programs which in a few years will probably cause you to switch over to it any way. it can also run 32 bit programs so its just awesome.


    well what im saying is if you are looking for versatility and compatability you should get the vista. its just great technoloy.
    on the other hand its new and still has its quirks but they constantly up date it so you would be okay.

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    my favorite is that if you put in a flash drive it can use it as ram. i love that feature personally. ive got 4 gigs in plus my 8 gig flash.....its amazing.
    Hm, you probably just about meet the minimum specs then Other OSes (Linux at least) have been able to do this for years, but it's not common practice because the constant writes will wear out a flash drive incredibly fast.
    not to mention my 250 gig external hard drive(about 200 bucks) and my internal hard drive.
    Not entirely sure what that's got to do with RAM, but... that's nice?
    also it is capable of running 64 bit programs which in a few years will probably cause you to switch over to it any way.
    So can Linux, BSD, and XP 64-bit.
    it can also run 32 bit programs so its just awesome.
    So can anything. All the 64-bit CPUs have 32-bit emulation built in.
    well what im saying is if you are looking for versatility and compatability you should get the vista. its just great technoloy.
    on the other hand its new and still has its quirks but they constantly up date it so you would be okay.
    Quirks like resetting the entire graphics subsystem every time the input surges a little, or using half your CPU power on internal encryption and decryption? Oh, and no, they're not just going to update that away, because it's a feature, not a bug, and they've "standardised" it.
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    my favorite is that if you put in a flash drive it can use it as ram.
    You could do that on XP. Just put a page file on your flash drive.
    So can anything. All the 64-bit CPUs have 32-bit emulation built in.
    Which is so memory-intensive. And annoying.
    Quirks like resetting the entire graphics subsystem every time the input surges a little, or using half your CPU power on internal encryption and decryption? Oh, and no, they're not just going to update that away, because it's a feature, not a bug, and they've "standardised" it.
    That only affects pirate DVDs. Stick with the law, and you'll get benefits.
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    You could do that on XP. Just put a page file on your flash drive.
    I had a feeling that XP was limited to creating page files on the drive where the OS was installed. You're probably right though.
    Which is so memory-intensive. And annoying.
    What? There's not much additional memory overhead at all. It does require loading 32-bit libraries if you're running a 64-bit OS, so I suppose it uses a little extra memory, but it's not all that significant.
    That only affects pirate DVDs. Stick with the law, and you'll get benefits.
    I'm not sure if you're joking or you just didn't read the article or that part of my post. If the input fluctuates a bit (or myriad other common irregularities that a computer normally just takes in its stride), Vista requires that the entire graphics subsystem be reset in case you're trying to do something fishy with the graphics card. All video content is encrypted between hardware devices and software, then decrypted again at the other end. This affects everyone. There are a plethora of other issues like this, too. Read the article.
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    I had a feeling that XP was limited to creating page files on the drive where the OS was installed.
    Wha? It can create page files on any drive.
    What? There's not much additional memory overhead at all. It does require loading 32-bit libraries if you're running a 64-bit OS, so I suppose it uses a little extra memory, but it's not all that significant.
    I ran a 32 bit application under a 64 bit OS once. The emulation took up about 200MB of memory, but the program itself only took up 30.
    If the input fluctuates a bit (or myriad other common irregularities that a computer normally just takes in its stride), Vista requires that the entire graphics subsystem be reset in case you're trying to do something fishy with the graphics card. All video content is encrypted between hardware devices and software, then decrypted again at the other end. This affects everyone. There are a plethora of other issues like this, too. Read the article.
    Well, you might be. So the average user on an average brand name computer would be affected by this?

    Imagine if there were no copy protection, and you and I were trying to make a movie. You'd want everyone to buy a copy, no? I surely would.
    And then... some person... decides to upload it to the internet. There are no copy protections on our video. Everyone downloads it. How much profit do we make from the DVD/HD-DVD/Blue-Ray? Nothing. Zilch. Not a cent. All your money, time, and effort put in our movie is gone.

    Would you be one happy person? I wouldn't.

    I really hate it when people (particuarly Linux fans) criticise and put-down Vista for no real particular reason. There will ALWAYS be problems with ANY operating system. Like Linux would be no different from these sorts of errors? Soon, a court order will force Linux to implement a similar system.
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    I personally prefer xp pro. if you really like the "layout" of vista you can always go here:
    http://www.crystalxp.net/
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    http://rocketdock.com/

    they provide themes for xp so it looks like vista. pretty neat!

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    I ran a 32 bit application under a 64 bit OS once. The emulation took up about 200MB of memory, but the program itself only took up 30.
    Interesting. That's not the case on Linux at least (I have several 32-bit programs that I use regularly, and the overhead is minimal).
    Well, you might be. So the average user on an average brand name computer would be affected by this?
    Yes. Read the article, and some of the links to user complaints at the end.
    Imagine if there were no copy protection, and you and I were trying to make a movie. You'd want everyone to buy a copy, no? I surely would.
    And then... some person... decides to upload it to the internet. There are no copy protections on our video. Everyone downloads it. How much profit do we make from the DVD/HD-DVD/Blue-Ray? Nothing. Zilch. Not a cent. All your money, time, and effort put in our movie is gone.
    DRM does little or nothing to help counter this problem, but does introduce a whole set of problems for the user. Like I said, read the article. It's the same principle as "Javascript encryption" and trying to hide the source of a web page. Also, this is what copyright law is for.
    I really hate it when people (particuarly Linux fans) criticise and put-down Vista for no real particular reason.
    "No particular reason?" It's so bad that no-one's buying it and Microsoft have extended support for XP. The grand opening was a grand flop.
    There will ALWAYS be problems with ANY operating system.
    Of course there will. All systems have bugs. The problem with Vista is that some of the features are as bad as the bugs, and features never get fixed (although admittedly given some of those security issues on Secunia with fix dates set at NEVER, even the bugs don't always get fixed where Microsoft is concerned).
    Soon, a court order will force Linux to implement a similar system.
    It won't, and can't. "Linux" is not a legal entity. "Linux" is just a chunk of code floating about the internet. There's no single corporation that the record companies can attempt to strong-arm into adding their patently ridiculous copy protection, and if someone did do so, in order to be compatible with the GPL it would have to be open-source. Guess how long it would take someone to break open-source DRM? (hint: it's measured in minutes)
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    I'm putting my money on seconds.

    An OS is just a tool. If your hammer starts telling you what nails you can hit, there's a problem, isn't there?

    There's also no reason to not dualboot. I use Fedora 8 and XP pro on my comp... (Can't live without WoW, and under wine i get 4fps...)
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    Can't live without WoW
    That is a sad, sad statement my friend.

    sorry, back on topic...
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    Yes. Read the article, and some of the links to user complaints at the end.
    That's just some users, out of the probably 10's of thousands of users who have used Vista.
    DRM does little or nothing to help counter this problem, but does introduce a whole set of problems for the user.
    So you're just saying "give up?"
    Also, this is what copyright law is for.
    Laws? Pfft. How many people got arrested for P2P distribution? One. Only one person. (Who is in the US)
    Copyright laws do nothing except scare the user, and it's clearly not working here. What do I do when I see the "piracy is stealing" ads? I skip 'em.
    "No particular reason?" It's so bad that no-one's buying it and Microsoft have extended support for XP. The grand opening was a grand flop.
    Are you sure about this? I saw thousands of people queuing up at my local electronics store...
    The problem with Vista is that some of the features are as bad as the bugs
    How is that so?
    It won't, and can't. "Linux" is not a legal entity. "Linux" is just a chunk of code floating about the internet.
    Companies sponsor the linux distributions. What if they (the lawyers) threaten the companies?
    Guess how long it would take someone to break open-source DRM? (hint: it's measured in minutes)
    I'll admit that DRM isn't the best option, but it's just to slow, not stop, the person trying to distribute movies freely on the internet.
    Can't live without WoW
    That is a sad, sad statement my friend.
    Hahahahaha 80% of the kids at my school can't live without it either. It's an addictive game.
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