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    I selected the "use maximum space available" option.
    Well then.
    I've installed [Windows] on an extended partition before, it just needs a primary partition to boot (Boot sector)
    No, don't confuse the boot sector with a primary partition. The boot sector of the hard drive exists in the "metadata" area, along with the partition table itself.
    Really? I'm guessing it's because it needs to boot from it (as said before)
    It doesn't, though. It uses it to boot from so that Windows is always the first OS to boot. But what if you don't want it to be? What if you want to have, for example, Linux on the primary drive, and have the boot loader chainload NTLDR, which should be on the secondary drive? Or how about having Windows on a portable hard drive? The only way you can do it is to make the Windows drive the primary drive, install Windows, then switch the drives back. There's no reason it should insist on that.
    I was trying to install the server version of Ubuntu to setup a web server. Even Windows Server 2003 is more friendlier than this.
    And? User-friendliness simply isn't (or shouldn't be) a selling point for servers. It's not a consideration, or if it is, it comes well below everything else, like performance, security, stability. Servers are designed for people who are well experienced with the operating system and computers in general, and who understand what they're doing. If you put someone who's completely unfamiliar with Windows in front of a machine and told them to install Windows Server 2003, I suspect much the same thing would happen
    I did try to install Fedora 6 Core, but it didn't start up.
    Yeah, the FC6 installer has a bug where it wouldn't install the bootloader properly. I had to do it manually (the install disk doubles as a rescue disk).
    I'll probably try OpenSUSE when I download it.
    Mm, I quite liked SuSE at first, but it didn't offer a whole lot of power. There was a very Windows-esque "the user is stupid" mentality going on. Might be OK for someone starting out, I guess, but I'd recommend KUbuntu over it.
    - It didn't recognize my mouse
    Heh, Windows (XP Pro) didn't recognise my keyboard (a Microsoft Ergonomic, ironically), my wireless card, or my DVD drive. I found it rather hilarious that it actually took eight days to get a hard drive running Windows into a working state, whereas it only took three for Gentoo (where every package was compiled from source). Even now that installation is buggy as anything, I just use qemu.
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    Well then.
    Well what? It gave me the details that it was going to split the partition, leaving one for my Windows, and one for Ubuntu.

    And? User-friendliness simply isn't (or shouldn't be) a selling point for servers.
    Oh yes it should be. How about if you wanted to start of a home server? A media center filled with all your videos from your library on your computer? Parental control? SOHO?
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    Well what? It gave me the details that it was going to split the partition, leaving one for my Windows, and one for Ubuntu.
    Oh, I see, you mean you repartitioned over your Windows partition.
    Oh yes it should be. How about if you wanted to start of a home server? A media center filled with all your videos from your library on your computer? Parental control? SOHO?
    Then you'd probably set up a server on a more user-friendly OS if you lacked the experience to use a dedicated server OS. A server OS is designed for professional servers.
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    if you want user freindly XP Pro accually makes a 'decent' server

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twey
    Then you'd probably set up a server on a more user-friendly OS if you lacked the experience to use a dedicated server OS. A server OS is designed for professional servers.
    So, which one would you recommend?
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    Fedora is currently my favourite binary distro. FC6 has some bugs in the installer, though... you might want to stick with FC5 for now, although FC6 is worth a try if you've got the time to spare.
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    Thanks. I'll wait until FC7 comes out in May then.
    Is there a such thing as a Linux Media Center?
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    The only real difference between Home and Media Center editions of Windows, as far as I'm aware, is the Media Center application. This functionality (amongst others) is provided by projects such as MythTV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twey
    The only real difference between Home and Media Center editions of Windows, as far as I'm aware, is the Media Center application.
    Yeah... I know that. But funny thing is, I didn't ask that question
    But with Vista, the Media Center comes with Home Premium and up (except Business and Enterprise)

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    This functionality (amongst others) is provided by projects such as MythTV.
    Heh. Not very "user-friendly" looking (I mean the start-up interface etc.)
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    I would have to say for a "User-Friendly" Server, I would go with either Windows 2000 Server or Windows XP Pro (with IIS). If you wanted to run Apache, then I would suggest Windows XP Pro and install a WAMP server package on it. As for Linux Distros, I would also suggest (as Twey did), Fedora 6.

    Hope this helps.
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