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    I am in the process of re-doing the menu on this site http://www.virtuosonetsolutions.com/

    Here is the problem:

    There is a grayish bar/border right below the sub-navigation (sub-nav is the one with "awards, testimonials", etc). I do not know where it is coming from.

    Note this bar appears only in firefox 2, but not in IE7 oddly.

    Below is a sample code from the site (all static each page)

    Code:
    		<tr>
    			<td style="border-left: 3px solid #EAEAEA; border-right: 3px solid #EAEAEA; " height="30" background="images/nav_bg.gif">
    			
     <table border="0" width="100%" id="table160" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" height="40">
    	<tr>
    		<td align="center"><font color="#FFFFFF"><span style="font-size: 8pt">
    		<a href="about.htm" style="text-decoration: none"><font color="#FFFFFF">
    		COMPANY</font></a></span></font></td>
    		<td align="center"><font color="#FFFFFF"><span style="font-size: 8pt">
    		<a href="services.htm" style="text-decoration: none">
    		<font color="#FFFFFF">SERVICES</font></a></span></font></td>
    		<td align="center"><font color="#FFFFFF"><span style="font-size: 8pt">
    		<a href="software.htm" style="text-decoration: none">
    		<font color="#FFFFFF">SOFTWARE</font></a></span></font></td>
    		<td align="center"><font color="#FFFFFF"><span style="font-size: 8pt">
    		<a href="network.htm" style="text-decoration: none">
    		<font color="#FFFFFF">NETWORK</font></a></span></font></td>
    		<td align="center"><font color="#FFFFFF"><span style="font-size: 8pt">
    		<a href="https://virtuosonetsolutions.com/support" style="text-decoration: none">
    		<font color="#FFFFFF">SUPPORT</font></a></span></font></td>
    		<td align="center"><font color="#FFFFFF"><span style="font-size: 8pt">
    		<a href="contact.htm" style="text-decoration: none">
    		<font color="#FFFFFF">CONTACT</font></a></span></font></td>
    		<td align="center"><font color="#FFFFFF"><span style="font-size: 8pt">
    		<a href="legal.htm" style="text-decoration: none"><font color="#FFFFFF">
    		LEGAL</font></a></span></font></td>
    	</tr>
    	</table>
    			</td>
    		</tr>
    		<tr>
    			<td style="border-left: 3px solid #EAEAEA; border-right: 3px solid #EAEAEA; ">
    			
     <table border="0" width="100%" id="table161" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" height="30" background="images/subnav_bg.gif">
    	<tr>
    		<td width="30" align="center">
    		<p align="right"><font color="#303030"><span style="font-size: 8pt">
    		<img border="0" src="images/subnav_icon.gif" width="9" height="9"></span></font></td>
    		<td align="left"><font color="#303030"><span style="font-size: 8pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    		<a href="awards.htm" style="text-decoration: none">AWARDS</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    		<img border="0" src="images/subnav_sep.gif" width="1" height="8">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    		<a href="testimonials.htm" style="text-decoration: none">TESTIMONIALS</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    		<img border="0" src="images/subnav_sep.gif" width="1" height="8">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    		<a href="affiliate.htm" style="text-decoration: none">AFFILIATES</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    		<img border="0" src="images/subnav_sep.gif" width="1" height="8">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    		<a href="http://virtuosonetsolutions.com/blog" style="text-decoration: none">
    		BLOG</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    		<img border="0" src="images/subnav_sep.gif" width="1" height="8">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    		<a href="faq.htm" style="text-decoration: none">FAQ</a></span></font></td>
    	</tr>
    	</table>
    			
     </td>
    		</tr>
    		
    	</table>
    This is the main/sub menu. I am not a designer/coder by trade so bear with me.

    Thank you.

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    Wow -- a perfect example of why not to use font tags or tables for layout

    I strongly suggest you switch the site to a CSS-based layout.
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    ya i find FF does weird things with tables lol, avoid them at all costs, wait a minute my site pretty much is a table but it looks the same across all browsers ive tested (IE6, IE7, FF)
    hmmm *thinks*..... i think there's gremlins living in the server LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by the-disturbed
    ya i find FF does weird things with tables lol, avoid them at all costs,

    Actually I have found it is the other way around, and what "appears wrong" in FF is actually correct, and IE has it wrong and just doesn't know better.

    If tables are off in FF it is 99% chance that your codes are whacky, not FF..
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    I'll agree with Blizzard here. FF isn't too fancy with tables. IE loves being fancy with strange borders and such.
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    djr33 and BLiZZaRD are right, but it's a bit of a moot point anyway: tables shouldn't be used for layout.
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