regarding the Holy Spirit

[benslayton]

ok as I said earlier...
Hey man, the Spirit of God doesn't mean that it is God. It means that it is from God. The Holy Spirit lives inside of us as long as we are saved. The Holy Spirit is not God, but from God.

[mburt]

amen.

[Jack]

Wow, I never thought I'd be sharing the bible on DD but if your okay with it then I'd love to jump in.

Lets take a look at something and judge for ourselves.

Acts 5:1-4 (New International Version)
Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. With his wife's full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles' feet. Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God."

So these people sold some land and rather then telling the truth about keeping some of the money, which by the way would have been fine, choose to lie about it. To get to the point, the Apostle says that they haven't lied to men but to God.

So what would be the logical conclusion?
I'd have to say that the Holy Spirit is God.

If you want, check out one of my pages regarding who the Holy Spirit is at: www.beholdhecomes.net/holyspirit.html

Respectfully!

[Twey]

Wow, I never thought I'd be sharing the bible on DD but if your okay with it then I'd love to jump in.

No, it's quite interesting to see how other people think.
I was of the opinion that mainstream Christianity regarded the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three "faces" of one being. Was I wrong?

[jr_yeo]

I'd have to say that the Holy Spirit is God.

i agree but i didnt get from the link mentioned above

which by the way would have been fine, choose to lie about it.

does this man its ok to lie?

[Jack]

No, it's quite interesting to see how other people think.
I was of the opinion that mainstream Christianity regarded the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three "faces" of one being. Was I wrong?

Yea it is interesting to see what people think about the bible. I'm a member of a few Christian forums and man I'll tell yea, I hear a lot of things.

But yea, mainstream Christianity believe that the Holy Spirit is a third person in the Godhead. Others have their own opinions of course but in short, most of them believe that the Holy Spirit is a third person - thus you get the false doctrine of the trinity.

1+1+1 = 1

I don't know who started this doctrine (Nor do I care to) but the bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit, so whoever started the trinity doctrine must have misinterpreted the scriptures and came up with a third being.

There are scriptures that if taken out of context seam to suggest this but once you realize that the Holy Spirit is in fact God's Spirit they all fall into place. So you end up with a better understanding of what their actually saying.

It's all very interesting! But hey, even more so if you believe.

One of the things I like about the bible is that you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand it.

Lol, unlike the scripts some of you guys come up with. Man, how you put those things together is beyond me.

Anyway, biblically speaking there are two beings. The Father and His Son. Seeing how the bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is the Father's Spirit should make it clear that He isn't a separate identity.

What I tell people is that God created us in His image and of course our spirit isn't a separate identity. My spirit is my spirit - not a separate identity.

Truth be told it would look more like this.

1+1 = 1

The reason I say that is that the bible tells us that the Son dwells in the Father and that the Father dwells in the Son - thus they are one. Two beings yet because they indwell each other there one.

Kinda like you and your wife. Two beings yet biblically one flesh.

Deep huh!

[Jack]

i agree but i didnt get from the link mentioned above


does this man its ok to lie?

Obviously not... But what I was saying is that if they wanted to keep some of the money it would had been fine. But they got in trouble when they lied about it. So they should have told the truth and said that what they were giving was part of what they had received. But they lied about it and guess what happen to them?

You can read up on it online at: http://www.biblegateway.com

Don't ask me why this happen because I don't know, all I know is not to lie to God because He obviously doesn't take it lightly.

[benslayton]

Bro,

Acts 2

4:All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

From what I understand here the Holy Spirit is what you recieve the Holy Spirit lives inside of you.

To get to the point, the Apostle says that they haven't lied to men but to God.

Yeah, I can see why you'd say that but, Still the holy Spirit is of God (from God) So he lied to God.

[benslayton]

Well anyways I dont have anymore time to post until a week. Because after church in the morning i'm heading down to Florida for a website competion. Bro you know that we can argue for a mill. years but God is Still God, and Jesus still died on the cross for you, me, and everyone else.
Oh yeah just to let you know you asked me to look at your site (which I already had about 3-4 months ago) respectfully. That's all cool bro. I did again. Bro I would never do bag on you or anything, now what I mean.

[benslayton]

Ok also look at this:

When you search "Spirit" back to the Hebrew/Greek it means "pneuma" which means "spirit (of God)" see for yourself.Holy Spirit

And then make sure you click on the 4151 beside it in the chart there.