LOL, thanks again, Mike.Quote:
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LOL, thanks again, Mike.Quote:
Originally Posted by mwinter
I like how Mike didn't DENY being 2 and one half when writting OO. ROTF
Yeah.
Twey, I'm just laughing at your argument at this point. What does not require a set of basic skills? So... everything is art? Everything is science? What's the debate, then?
Just for the sake of this argument then, I imagine you have your own ideas, right? To you then, give us an example of each - one example of something that under no circumstances could be considered art and one example of something that under no circumstances could be considered science.Quote:
Originally Posted by djr33
Math (algebra, if you need specifics) is science, painting is art.
If not, then there's no debate here.
I was really looking for more specific examples, but -Quote:
Originally Posted by djr33
So, according to you, algebra under no circumstances could be considered art, and painting under no circumstances could be considered science?
You really are willing to give up so easily, aren't you?Quote:
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Why?Quote:
Math (algebra, if you need specifics) is science
Have you ever seen a fractal image?
What is that fractal image ? How is it made ? Fascinating !
Painting is not always art. Go to a gallery, where you will find a curator that will tell you how the painting has been made, the idea and methods behind it, etc. So he makes it into a science, just to sell it.
There is no separation between two. To me, art can become a science in se, and science can become an artform. All depends how you look at it, but above all: what you know about.
A fractal is a visual representation of a mathematical formula. In the case of the landscapes, textures have been added by hand afterwards.Quote:
What is that fractal image ? How is it made ? Fascinating !
I agree. Art can be defined as something that evokes emotion in the beholder, or as something that was created as an expression of an emotion. Both, of course, can apply to just about anything.Quote:
There is no separation between two.
Yeah, there are exceptions to math, such as a fractal image, but on the whole, it's science, not art.
Everything is, I suppose, on a scale somewhere between art and science. Math is certainly more toward science and painting is more toward art.
In the sense of math used to create art, it's just that. The formula itself is SCIENCE, though the result may be ART.
Interestingly enough, this is just like programming.
In the sense of programming, arguably, style is art, but the overall medium of programming is science more than it is art.
At this point, if there is no difference between the two, then there's no point in debating. And, just to contradict myself, I'll note that there must be a difference between the two or they would have the same definition. But, since it's an opinion, you can't PROVE it either way, though I find it to be quite clear that it generally makes sense.