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I am new at website making (4weeks) and I want to see how people like my new web page. I have done the basic HTML script but all the rest that is Java Script, DHTML, CSS. Most of wich is from this site. so if you want to see it check it out the adress is: http://www.vbptenge.net/paul/paultest.htm . Please send me feedback because I want my site to grow. Also I need ideas for new things to add to my site. Also I would like to boast that I have taught myself how to do all of this without my dad's help, who is a very skilled web designer. Thats how he learned, the only difference is I started at a younger age. :D
What does that mean "mad professer" lol........ it's all good.:D
It means, your link doesn't work. :)
jscheuer1
03-12-2006, 06:44 PM
It's working now. The page is hard (not impossible) to read, dark background and foreground colors. Apparently it was designed on a fairly high resolution monitor without any thought given to how it would appear on smaller screens, most notably it is so wide that most folks will have horizontal scrollbars. I don't know why it says 'Good Evening' at the top of the page, if that is supposed to read the user's time, it got mine off by about 4 or 5 hours, it is 1:42pm here as I type.
For a first attempt, not so bad really.
I think I like your dad already, why can't he help you? Is this some kind of father/son thing?
how exactly do i make the text fit on the page i thought that the browser took control of that. I also have a question. You may have noticed that my site has bacground music(i know it is against all the site making rules but i like it), the problem is that it works in Fire Fox and I cant get it to work in Internet Explorer. It states at the bottom of the window that there is an "error on page". Do you know why this is. O, and i just thought of something should I command (pre) in place of (p) and format it to how I like it? By the way i do not use wysiwyg so it is easy for me to make mistakes.
I have looked at it on quite a few computers (18)
And the screen is very easy to read. can you describe what background you got. Also the "good Evening" part changes from one half orf the day to the other. Past 12:00pm it will say "good evening", then at 12 am it will say "good morning" It is a little out of place. the reason is because this is a work in progress site and
there is supposed to be a clock next to it. I could not get the clock to work.
Aesthetically speaking, I'd just say one thing: don't go over-the-top with repeating backgrounds and big in-your-face text elements et al. Keep it simple and stylish.
I think I like your dad already, why can't he help you? Is this some kind of father/son thing?It's more satisfying to do it by one's self :)
And the screen is very easy to read. can you describe what background you got.No, the blue links against the blue Biro on the dark paper are quite hard to read.
Your Good Morning/Evening script:
<script type="text/javascript">
var d = new Date()
var time = d.getHours()
if (time < 12)
{
document.write("<b>Good morning</b>")
}
else
{
document.write("<b>Good Evening</b>")
}
</script>Could be simplified to:
<script type="text/javascript">
document.write(("Good " + ((new Date()).getHours() < 12 ? "morning" : "evening")).bold());
</script>Although John's right there too; if it were down to me, I'd have 0300 to 1200 as morning, then 1200 to 2100 as evening, and 2100 to 0300 as night.
That is very true, after I finish something myself I feel this feeling of proudness. My dad tells me that this is the best way to learn by researching it yourself. He did not even know I could Write is Hyper Text Markup Language untill I asked him if I could use his web space. I just decided I wanted to be a true computer nerd so I found W3schools online and within 4 hours I could make a web site that was simple. I am proud of my self. I also have plans to learn every thin like javascript, xhtml, dhtml............. I shall be the master.:D :D :D :cool:
well I do see your point but it is technically correct the way I have it. i do have an idea that i could add a "good day message" but i do not know how to add it. Could you show me how to.
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/chrome/index.htm how exactly do
I put this menue on my web site. Instructions are confusing.
jscheuer1
03-12-2006, 09:59 PM
how exactly do i make the text fit on the page i thought that the browser took control of that. I also have a question. You may have noticed that my site has bacground music(i know it is against all the site making rules but i like it), the problem is that it works in Fire Fox and I cant get it to work in Internet Explorer. It states at the bottom of the window that there is an "error on page". Do you know why this is. O, and i just thought of something should I command (pre) in place of (p) and format it to how I like it? By the way i do not use wysiwyg so it is easy for me to make mistakes.
The browser will take care of fitting the text and other elements into the window if you let it. If you set the width of things (like tables, divisions or paragraphs that contain the text, images, etc.) in pixels though, the browser's hands are tied, it must follow your instructions. It is better to use relative units like % or em, rather than px.
Sound on web pages is usually a bad idea, consuming bandwidth (this is especially important for our dial-up friends) and annoying many people. If you just gotta have it, it is a problem cross browser as different browsers use different methods and even the same browser will approach things differently depending upon what plug-in(s) it has configure for sound and how those are configured. This page (http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/mark/audio/play.htm) has about the most complete info on this issue (for folks determined to do it) that I have seen. My advice - unless the sound is short and of a small byte size, skip it. I usually browse with sound turned off anyway.
The pre tag is not a good habit to get into. It limits the way the browser can wrap your text, unnaturally confining it in situations where it could stretch across the screen and sometimes not allowing it to wrap when it needs to. It is best confined to small areas for formatting purposes, if used at all.
I applaud you for not using a WYSIWYG editor, they in fact make more errors on complex pages than they avoid. Any serious coder uses a text editor designed to handle the languages he/she codes in. Designers can be forgiven their use of WYSIWYG editors if they do not have the ability or inclination to learn at least HTML and css. But, they would be best advised to engage someone who does.
The browser will take care of fitting the text and other elements into the window if you let it. If you set the width of things (like tables, divisions or paragraphs that contain the text, images, etc.) in pixels though, the browser's hands are tied, it must follow your instructions. It is better to use relative units like % or em, rather than px.
Sound on web pages is usually a bad idea, consuming bandwidth (this is especially important for our dial-up friends) and annoying many people. If you just gotta have it, it is a problem cross browser as different browsers use different methods and even the same browser will approach things differently depending upon what plug-in(s) it has configure for sound and how those are configured. This page (http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/mark/audio/play.htm) has about the most complete info on this issue (for folks determined to do it) that I have seen. My advice - unless the sound is short and of a small byte size, skip it. I usually browse with sound turned off anyway.
The pre tag is not a good habit to get into. It limits the way the browser can wrap your text, unnaturally confining it in situations where it could stretch across the screen and sometimes not allowing it to wrap when it needs to. It is best confined to small areas for formatting purposes, if used at all.
I applaud you for not using a WYSIWYG editor, they in fact make more errors on complex pages than they avoid. Any serious coder uses a text editor designed to handle the languages he/she codes in. Designers can be forgiven their use of WYSIWYG editors if they do not have the ability or inclination to learn at least HTML and css. But, they would be best advised to engage someone who does.
I agree with what you said I will take the music and make it an optional link to listen to it. Also i would like to know if it is illegal for me to post a bunch of songs on my site that I burned to my computer? I don't want to get in touble.
So if I replaced the <pre> tag with <p> would the browser take charge of the placement of the text?
i would like to know if it is illegal for me to post a bunch of songs on my site that I burned to my computerUnless you have permission (for example, if the music was under a Creative Commons license), it was illegal even to copy them to your hard disk :)
jscheuer1
03-14-2006, 07:08 PM
So if I replaced the <pre> tag with <p> would the browser take charge of the placement of the text?
As long as no other formatting instructions on the page prevent it from doing do, yes.
I know if i use a logo i can use it by adding a trademark thing, can i do the same for music somehow
jscheuer1
03-17-2006, 02:41 AM
I know if i use a logo i can use it by adding a trademark thing, can i do the same for music somehow
No. Generally, if you use someone else's music, if you provide only low quality excerpts and credit the owners, you will not get any complaints though, I believe it is still technically illegal. Also, generally, if you were to use high quality, full length cuts but your site saw little traffic, there would probably be no problem. Once again though, you would technically be in violation. Generally, in either case, probably the worst that could happen is that you would be requested to remove the offending content. Refusal to do so is when your real problems would begin, generally.
I hope you noticed I used the words 'generally' and 'probably' quite a bit in the above. There have been cases particularly involving one heavy metal band whose name (tm) I cannot seem to recall at the moment and others where things escalated much more quickly than is generally the case. So, I would still recommend against using copyright material on your site unless it is your own or you have permission from from the copyright holder.
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