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hi,
i would like to create 2 separate windows on 1 screen for menu navigation like this one ( the left and the middle window)
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/8620/
..but i don't understand the concept and couldn't figure out the script ..
please help ..
thank you in advance ..
Xiong Chiamiov
03-02-2006, 06:43 AM
This is called using frames. Do a google for frames tutorials and you're on your way. And please do not use so many frames I cannot read your website. Two is a good amount, not 10.
hi Xiong,
thank you for replying ..actually, i don't know much about frames :( ..i learned basic html concepts couple years ago through a friend and now i kinda pick up on my own ..i try to create my hp and, of course, i love the "frame" designs but i guess i bite more than i can take :( .. i think i have to stick w/ tables ..
..anyway, i try to use this dynamic menu on this page but i cannot extract the file .. i'd used 2 different computers but the message stated that there's an error .. are you familiar w/ this script (?) ..or do you have any suggestions (?) ..i love this script than the one i have in my album page ..
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/davidmenu.htm
..oh, here's my work ..would you like to take a tour ..it's not done though ..
www.freewebs.com/tvu9
once again, thanks a lot, Xiong :)
Animated, high-contrast background images? :-\
Also, you could spare some bandwidth by doing those image fades with Javascript rather than an animated image.
hi Twey,
thank you for replying and for your suggestions :) ..
my knowledge about java is very limited ..i could only extract and reconnect java from its source but i have not learnt how to create 1 yet ..so i'm hoping after my spring break i would have more time to figure out how to create java ..i would love to learn more and i will need helps because i'm a slow learner ..would you please recommend a website that would help me w/ java (?) ..i have this one on hand but i have not check out ..is this one ok (?)
www.anfyteam.com
in addition, i noticed that on my pages (album, profile, and foreword) have the "error" message ..and i just tested and figured out the reason why ..
<a href="/tvu9/foreword.htm" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('foreword','','foreword.htm',1)" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()">
..the bolded part caused the problem on my pages ..Twey, is this function allow an image to project/change when using the mouse over the link (?) ..i think it is but i'm not 100% confident ..
would this be an example (?)
www.anhvaem.net
..the creator disabled the "view source" so i can't tell .. please help :)
thank you in advance :)
..please disregard the statement below ..silly me .. i'm sorry ..
would you please recommend a website that would help me w/ java (?)
sleipner
03-03-2006, 02:36 AM
the creator disabled the "view source"
maybe via context/right click menu, but you can always go View >> Page source
some of the harder to get source elements I just find the external file referrence I want, copy the URL into a quick .html file with a link to the file, then save link target as - and you got it...
Xiong Chiamiov
03-04-2006, 03:46 AM
..the creator disabled the "view source" so i can't tell .. please help
Actually, they just used Flash ;) .
hi Xiong,
Hi.
thank you for replying ..actually, i don't know much about frames :( ..i learned basic html concepts couple years ago through a friend and now i kinda pick up on my own ..i try to create my hp and, of course, i love the "frame" designs but i guess i bite more than i can take :( .. i think i have to stick w/ tables ..
..anyway, i try to use this dynamic menu on this page but i cannot extract the file .. i'd used 2 different computers but the message stated that there's an error .. are you familiar w/ this script (?) ..or do you have any suggestions (?) ..i love this script than the one i have in my album page ..
Proceeding with a nice, orderly list.
1. Frames aren't really that complicated. This is an example of a page I made with frames:
<frameset frameborder=0 frameborder=no rows="*,0">
<frame name="main" src="choose.html" noresize>
<frame name="music">
</frameset>
You would want columns instead of rows, and probably not a 0 pixel frame. Just specify the src of your two pages, and you're ready to go. In your menu, make sure to <a href="lol.html" target="TheNameOfYourOtherFrame">blah</a> for your links.
2. As far as extracting the files, right click->extract?
3. Wow. Try to use as few images as possible. I still have friends on dial-up, and that is just messy. I have found isnoop.net to be my model.
4. As long as you aren't uploading anything over 200kb (large pictures, for ex.), atspace.com is an excellent free host.
5. Please don't fade menu choices unless you let me choose when to see them. What I mean by this is:
either have them appear when I mouseover
or
have them disappear when I mouseover.
6. Beware the flashy fireworks. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
7. Is that you in the pictures? 'Cause I would have to say that both subjects in the pics are rather cute (though in different ways, y'know). Not to be wierd and internet stalker dude or anything :p .
<frameset frameborder=0 frameborder=no rows="*,0">
<frame name="main" src="choose.html" noresize>
<frame name="music">
</frameset>Couple of issues with that: attribute values should always be surrounded by quotes. It's permissible not to use quotes if the value contains only numerical characters, but it doesn't hurt to use them even then. Also, an attribute should always have a value. I would have written that code thusly:
<frameset frameborder="0" frameborder="no" rows="*,0">
<frame name="main" src="choose.html" noresize="1">
<frame name="music">
</frameset>
2. As far as extracting the files, right click->extract?Ouch... don't make OS/DE assumptions. She said there was an error; therefore, she has already tried to extract it but whatever she used failed. t.vu: It works fine here; could be a corrupted download. Try downloading it again.
either have them appear when I mouseoverThis is known as "mystery meat navigation," and is the bane of web designers and users alike :) Avoid at all costs.
6. Beware the flashy fireworks. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.Agreed... when you do use them, keep it as efficient as possible. For example, the animated fading links can be done with more complex Javascript rather than simple Javascript and images (which shouldn't really be used in lieu of text anyway), and the Java menu you had on the first page you linked to (although not the latter) you could also have done with Javascript more efficiently.
is this function allow an image to project/change when using the mouse over the linkTo change, yes. It's a pregenerated function created by Macromedia products, and so won't necessarily be as efficient for your specific uses as it would have been had you written the function yourself.
I shall proceed to write a simple fading-text script. Watch this space.
maybe via context/right click menu, but you can always go View >> Page source
some of the harder to get source elements I just find the external file referrence I want, copy the URL into a quick .html file with a link to the file, then save link target as - and you got it...
hi sleipner,
wow, thank you very much ..this is so cool ..now, the disabled-right click script cannot stop me anymore :) ..
Actually, they just used Flash .
Hi.
Proceeding with a nice, orderly list.
1. Frames aren't really that complicated. This is an example of a page I made with frames:
<frameset frameborder=0 frameborder=no rows="*,0">
<frame name="main" src="choose.html" noresize>
<frame name="music">
</frameset>
You would want columns instead of rows, and probably not a 0 pixel frame. Just specify the src of your two pages, and you're ready to go. In your menu, make sure to <a href="lol.html" target="TheNameOfYourOtherFrame">blah</a> for your links.
2. As far as extracting the files, right click->extract?
3. Wow. Try to use as few images as possible. I still have friends on dial-up, and that is just messy. I have found isnoop.net to be my model.
4. As long as you aren't uploading anything over 200kb (large pictures, for ex.), atspace.com is an excellent free host.
5. Please don't fade menu choices unless you let me choose when to see them. What I mean by this is:
either have them appear when I mouseover
or
have them disappear when I mouseover.
6. Beware the flashy fireworks. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
7. Is that you in the pictures? 'Cause I would have to say that both subjects in the pics are rather cute (though in different ways, y'know). Not to be wierd and internet stalker dude or anything :p .
hi Xiong,
oh okie ..i will learn as you'd taught me about frameset ..thank you very much ..
..i'm sorry i've been inconsiderate about dial-up connection ..and i didn't realize about that ..in fact, i have to redo the whole thing again b/c Twey mentioned about the bandwidth ..and i couldn't open the frontpage on my brother's laptop too ..it froze :confused: ..i used animated pix as my menu so that was why it disappeared when you clicked on it ..and i haven't use the mouseover script even though it's there ..i'll fix it when i finish w/ my cert. exam ..
what's wrong w/ the firework flash (?) ..is it not good for hp (?) ..well, i saw a firework script @ this web and i will change over to the script b/c some comp. don't have java so they cant view java works ..
Not to be wierd and internet stalker dude or anything :p .
..heheee ..don't worry about that ..i understand .. thanks :)
maybe via context/right click menu, but you can always go View >> Page source
some of the harder to get source elements I just find the external file referrence I want, copy the URL into a quick .html file with a link to the file, then save link target as - and you got it...
hi sleipner,
the "page source" works on some pages w/ the disabled-right click script but i still cannot access the view source on this page .. do you have any idea ..
http://www.angeleyes2.com/platinum6/icq269.html
..are you familiar w/ this disabled script (?) ..
Ouch... don't make OS/DE assumptions. She said there was an error; therefore, she has already tried to extract it but whatever she used failed. t.vu: It works fine here; could be a corrupted download. Try downloading it again.This is known as "mystery meat navigation," and is the bane of web designers and users alike :) Avoid at all costs.Agreed... when you do use them, keep it as efficient as possible. For example, the animated fading links can be done with more complex Javascript rather than simple Javascript and images (which shouldn't really be used in lieu of text anyway), and the Java menu you had on the first page you linked to (although not the latter) you could also have done with Javascript more efficiently.To change, yes. It's a pregenerated function created by Macromedia products, and so won't necessarily be as efficient for your specific uses as it would have been had you written the function yourself.
I shall proceed to write a simple fading-text script. Watch this space.
hi Twey,
yes, it wasn't the right click thing but the mouseover script that caused an error but i already fixed it so it's okie now ..i think because i left a part of the script @ <a href ..> so that was the error ..
Twey, besides replacing animated pix/menu to javacript/java menu, and fireworks java .. what else would you recommend to replace for my hp to be efficient (?) ..
here's my plan ..i will replace my menu w/ this 1 ..
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/dropdowncontrol.htm
Dropdown HTML control
and
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/popit.htm
..this depend on where the menu is ..
fireworks
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/fireworks2.htm
..and difinitely this one too..flying words :), instead of animated pix..in my frontpage
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex10/flyletter.htm
..oh where is your fading-text script (?) .. i haven't seen it yet b/c my comp broke down so i haven't been on the net since last Thurs. .. please repost again or have you posted in the text animation page (?) ..
..thank you for all your help :) ..
Twey,
i couldn't extract these scripts from here ..it always said there's an error ..could you recheck and help me please ..thank you :)
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/davidmenu.htm
..oh where is your fading-text script (?)Good question. I got slightly carried away with it, so it took longer than I expected.
Save and upload this (http://www.twey.co.uk/fading/FadableObject.js) to the same directory as your HTML file. Remove the animation from your images (just use the first frame). That will remove most of the size. In the head of your page, add:
<script type="text/javascript" src="FadableObject.js"></script>Then, give those fading image tags a name of "fading":
<img src="blah.jpg" name="fading">Somewhere in your code after all the fading <img> tags, add this code block:
<script type="text/javascript">
for(var sib = 0;sib < document.getElementsByName("fading").length; sib++) {
new FadableObject(document.getElementsByName("fading")[sib], 3, 10, 30, 99, true, true);
document.getElementsByName("fading")[sib].onmouseover = function() {
this.fadeThread.fadeIn();
};
document.getElementsByName("fading")[sib].onmouseout = function() {
this.fadeThread.fadeOut();
};
}
</script>That will take care of all the styles and events and things. If it doesn't look right, take a look at the FadableObjects.js file; it contains instructions for using all the arguments. This will work with text elements as well (such as <p> or <span>) but you must specify a width and background colour, or they will look odd in IE.
i couldn't extract these scripts from here ..it always said there's an errorThat ZIP archive is definitely working. I suggest you check/reinstall your ZIP software.
the "page source" works on some pages w/ the disabled-right click script but i still cannot access the view source on this page .. do you have any idea ..I can... even right-click works for me in Firefox 1.5.
i will change over to the script b/c some comp. don't have java so they cant view java works ..Exactly the same applies to Flash.
hi Twey,
i'm sorry i was busy w/ midterm so i couldn't reply early ..thank you so much for helping me out :) ..i will replace all the old images w/ your script ..last night i worked on my hp and changed things around a bit ..i used the "flying text" script to eliminated the old "theme" image for temporary to make it more efficient and cut down the space ..Twey, is there a way to make the script runs continuously instead of 1 time (?) ..also, how i can tell a window or a page that takes too much resource from viewer's computer (?) ..i checked in my html directory .. the index page is 12.5kb ..is this too large (?) .. could you give me an idea how much kb would be considered as too large for a html page (?) ..and what's an ideal size that would be efficient for dial up connection (?) .. also, how come sometimes the image appear "out of range" in 1 computer and not in another (?) ..is it because of the setting (?) ..could you teach me, please (?) :) ..
..i used 5 different computers to extract but the results were the same ..still popped up "error" message ..and i just recently extracted a zip on my comp. ..
t.
ps..i'm sorry that i'd asked too many basic questions ..please be patient w/ me :) ..
hi Twey,
..i used the "flying text" script to eliminated the old "theme" image for temporary to make it more efficient and cut down the space ..Twey, is there a way to make the script runs continuously instead of 1 time (?) ....
i'd checked @ the link below but there was no instruction how to change things so that's why i'm consulting your expertise ..i also tried to read the script before asking for help but my knowledge is very limited ..please help :) .. thank you :) ..
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex10/flyletter.htm
5. Please don't fade menu choices unless you let me choose when to see them. What I mean by this is:
either have them appear when I mouseover
or
have them disappear when I mouseover.
.
hi Xiong,
i've changed the mouseover option w/ images so that they won't disappear on you :) ..
Twey, is there a way to make the script runs continuously instead of 1 time (?)http://www.dynamicdrive.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16716&postcount=2
The code is a little different now, so don't just copy/paste it; instead, edit it as I've marked in red.
..also, how i can tell a window or a page that takes too much resource from viewer's computer (?) ..i checked in my html directory .. the index page is 12.5kb ..is this too large (?) .. could you give me an idea how much kb would be considered as too large for a html page (?) ..and what's an ideal size that would be efficient for dial up connection (?)The HTML page itself is only text, and so tends to be very small; you usually needn't worry about it. Instead, add up the sizes of all the images on the page. If it comes to more than about 500k, it's getting large, although a megabyte is probably acceptable (though not advisable) in this age of broadband.
.. also, how come sometimes the image appear "out of range" in 1 computer and not in another (?) ..is it because of the setting (?)Resolution, perhaps? If the image is unviewable and vital to the page's function, you should think about designing your page more flexibly.
..i used 5 different computers to extract but the results were the same ..still popped up "error" message ..and i just recently extracted a zip on my comp. ..Using the same software, perhaps? Try another ZIP-extracting program. I used Info-ZIP (http://www.info-zip.org/).
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16716&postcount=2
The code is a little different now, so don't just copy/paste it; instead, edit it as I've marked in red.
hi Twey,
..i fixed it like you taught me ..this is so cool :) ..and i'll count the sizes ..thank you so muuch for teaching me and give you a bigggggg hug too :) ..
Resolution, perhaps? If the image is unviewable and vital to the page's function, you should think about designing your page more flexibly..
..it's viewable but out of range ..i had to use horizontal scrollbar in order to view the rest on some comp. @ my school's library ..how would i design the page more flexibly (?) ..would the percentage of the tables' sizes affect the flexibility (?) ..(b/c in some tables i used plain values and some in percentile values) ..and i also used many scripts on 1 page (b/c i love the scripts :) ) .. would the scripts affect the efficiency of the page (?) ..
Using the same software, perhaps? Try another ZIP-extracting program. I used Info-ZIP (http://www.info-zip.org/).
thank youuuuu :) ..
Good question. I got slightly carried away with it, so it took longer than I expected.
Save and upload this (http://www.twey.co.uk/fading/FadableObject.js) to the same directory as your HTML file. Remove the animation from your images (just use the first frame). That will remove most of the size. In the head of your page, add:
<script type="text/javascript" src="FadableObject.js"></script>Then, give those fading image tags a name of "fading":
<img src="blah.jpg" name="fading">.
hi Twey,
..i just worked on your script and had no problem implementing .. i read your script ..oh gosh, how can you write long script like that (?) ..this is great (!) ..i'll need it somewhere else instead of in the menu b/c i'm going to replace w/ drop down menu w/ submenus, which i'm having trouble working on it now ..but i'll try to figure out on my own 1st before consulting you ..thanks a lot, Twey :) ..
..and here's my testing site ..
http://www.freewebs.com/tvu9/test5book.htm
good night, Twey :) ..
how would i design the page more flexibly (?) ..would the percentage of the tables' sizes affect the flexibility (?) ..(b/c in some tables i used plain values and some in percentile values)Yes, but for the better. You should really use percentages for all the widths. Of course, you shouldn't really be using tables at all.
and i also used many scripts on 1 page (b/c i love the scripts ) .. would the scripts affect the efficiency of the page (?) ..Yes. They tend to have a small download size, but once on the client's machine and being executed, they consume precious memory and CPU runtime.
oh gosh, how can you write long script like thatAs I said, I got a little carried away :p
Oh, and the validation scripts at the top of your page won't work, because there is no opening <script> tag.
hi Twey,
i'm sorry for replying late ..
..if i "shouldn't use tables" so can i use <tr> and <td> to position images/objects (?) ..i just replaced most of the widths and heights (also) ..and took out the dissolving script when entering the index page ..it seemed to be less in size-wise now ..i also counted the sizes of the images too but hadn't finished all yet ..and the index page seemed to be more efficient now but i can't tell if it is on a dial up connection ..is there a way w/out to check the efficiency, Twey (?) ..
Twey, how many scripts could be uterlized and would be acceptable for 1 html page to be efficient(?) ..my brother mentioned that if a script has a "loop" thing would consume more memory, i think ..so how can i tell if a script consume more memory than the others (?) ..please teach me the basic/specific points to look for in a script so that i could apply it more efficient rather than blindly "abused" it :confused: ..
..i'll be out again ..my semester's about to end pretty soon, so i'm swamped w/ school and work now :( ..
thank you very much, Twey :) ..have a great day ..
..if i "shouldn't use tables" so can i use <tr> and <td> to position images/objects (?)CSS should serve you here too.
Twey, how many scripts could be uterlized and would be acceptable for 1 html page to be efficient(?) ..my brother mentioned that if a script has a "loop" thing would consume more memory, i think ..so how can i tell if a script consume more memory than the others (?) ..please teach me the basic/specific points to look for in a script so that i could apply it more efficient rather than blindly "abused" itdocument.write() calls slow down a page's loading time considerably, but don't use any resources after that. Code that loops indefinitely is, as you suspect, going to be the big one here. The less frequently it loops (using setTimeout, for example), the less resources it should consume.
Quote:
Originally Posted by t.vu
..the creator disabled the "view source" so i can't tell .. please help
Actually, they just used Flash .
Just out of interest, I am not being picky, but how is this flash:
<body SCROLL=AUTO oncontextmenu="return false;">
[BTW t.vu, that's the srcipt to disable right-clicking (context menu)]
CSS should serve you here too.document.write() calls slow down a page's loading time considerably, but don't use any resources after that. Code that loops indefinitely is, as you suspect, going to be the big one here. The less frequently it loops (using setTimeout, for example), the less resources it should consume.
hi Twey,
thank you very much ..
oh, i just receive a slide show file in my email .. i would like to put it on my website ..what code should i use (?) ..
SOMETHINGBOTHERINGYOU.PPS
(1.102 MB)
please help ..
Just out of interest, I am not being picky, but how is this flash:
<body SCROLL=AUTO oncontextmenu="return false;">
[BTW t.vu, that's the srcipt to disable right-clicking (context menu)]
hi c24w,
it was meant that the creator of www.anhvaem.com using flash in the index page ..
thank you for the code ..
oh, i just receive a slide show file in my email .. i would like to put it on my website ..what code should i use (?) ..
SOMETHINGBOTHERINGYOU.PPSI advise just linking to it like any normal file:
<a href="somethingbotheringyou.pps">Click here to view the amazing slideshow!</a>It's far too big to embed. Also, remember to provide a link to OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org/) to view it in case the user doesn't already have software capable of viewing it installed.
hi Twey,
yes, yes ..it's too big :( ..and give you a biggggg hug too ..and here's my new page ..
Children of Hope (http://www.freewebs.com/tvu9/childrenofhope.htm)
i would like to invite you and the ones, that are interested in giving a hand, to visit this page ..
ps ..what's an open office (?) ..is it that the link where i store the file (?) ..sorry i'm a slow learner ..
Xiong Chiamiov
04-14-2006, 06:59 PM
Well, it's been a while since I've been on here, and I see Twey has been helping you make great improvements. I like the design. There are some things that I personally would change, but I'm not about to throw you into table-less web design. I myself am just learning it.
A few thoughts:
When Twey refers to a "table-less site", he is talking about using CSS, another language thing that makes life much easier. If you're interested, I would suggest learning it, but it is not necessary for what you are doing now.
OpenOffice.org (OOo) is an open-source (think free) application that allows you to, among other things, run PowerPoint files. Think of it as Microsoft Office, but free. (apologies to all the other OOo users for comparing it to Office ;) )
edit: Oh yeah, one other thing. Right now, when you roll over the "something bothering you", the entire page moves down. I would recommend making both pictures (the normal and rollover) the same dimensions, so as to prevent that problem.
edit: Garr, forgot another thing. It's a good idea to test your site in multiple browsers. I'm presuming you're using Internet Explorer (though that's not a given nowadays), but I also try to see what it looks like in Firefox, Opera, Safari, and Konqueror. You should also check multiple screen resolutions. Now, these are all things you *should* do, but whether it's worth it to you or not,...
If you happen to be using Firefox, btw, there is an excellent developer toolbar available here (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=60).
(apologies to all the other OOo users for comparing it to Office ;) )Lol, good job this isn't a Linux forum: you've avoided being lynched. :p
If you happen to be using Firefox, btw, there is an excellent developer toolbar available here.I've always found the View Formatted Source (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=697) extension more useful. It can do most of the things the Developer Toolbar can, if in a different way. Less bugs, too.
Xiong Chiamiov
04-14-2006, 07:30 PM
Lol, good job this isn't a Linux forum: you've avoided being lynched. :p
Yeah, well that's what /. does to you.
I've always found the View Formatted Source (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=697) extension more useful. It can do most of the things the Developer Toolbar can, if in a different way. Less bugs, too.
Hmm. Looks useful. I do however enjoy being able to validate my code through the toolbar, as well as check speed and whatnot.
I do however enjoy being able to validate my code through the toolbarValidation bookmarklet:
javascript:window.location="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri="+escape(window.location.href);
Xiong Chiamiov
04-14-2006, 07:44 PM
Yeah, I know, but my bookmarks are already out of control...
hi Xiong,
yes, everybody here had help me a lot, esp. Twey .. yes, i'd like to learn css too .. i think it's something like this http://www.nguyentusweb.com/tho.html .. thank you so much for the source ..
ya .. 'cause i was wanted to have a best oceanic view .. anyway, i just changed already .. thank you ..
..sorry, i don't even know what's firefox is ..i just learn here and there so my comp basic is really sucks ..
t.
hi Twey ..
do you have a link about css for beginner (?) .. i saw a forum about css but i couldn't find the right one .. i would like to try on my own 1st before i bother you and everybody .. please help ..
t.
Of course. See http://www.w3schools.com/css/.
i just learn here and thereOnly way to learn :) I learnt (and am still learning) the same way, as, I daresay, did/are most of the people here.
..sorry, i don't even know what's firefox isFirefox is a browser, based on Mozilla's Gecko engine. The most popular browsers today (the ones you should check your page in first) are:
Microsoft Internet Explorer
Mozilla Firefox (http://www.getfirefox.com/)
Opera (http://www.opera.com)
Netscape (http://www.netscape.com/)
Safari (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/safari.html) (only available for Mac)
hi Twey,
thank you so much for the link :) .. oh i see .. then i don't have firefox .. i have only MS internet explorer ..
wow, that's perfect (!) .. that's why you and everybody here are my teachers .. for me, as you have known, i'm a slow learner but i'm not going to complain b/c i have a professor to .. bother .. just kidding :) .. have a great night Twey :) ..
Lol :)
If you don't have a Mac to test your page on with Safari, you can try Konqueror (http://konqueror.kde.org/), which uses KHTML like Safari and so tends to render pages the same way. However, it's only available for *n?x and Cygwin, so failing that you can try SafariTest (http://www.snugtech.com/safaritest/). Unfortunately, this obviously can't test the more interactive aspects of your page, so I advise installing Cygwin and Konqueror if you can't get your hands on a Mac.
hi Twey ..
unfortunately, i don't have a Mac .. thank you so much Twey .. i still checking out css ..still haven't get the concept .. it's hard :( .. but i'm working on it ..have a nice night Twey ..
hi Twey,
how are you doing (?) .. guesssss what (?) i did it ..i'm soooo happy now 'cause i'm able to finish this hp before school starts :) .. i just figured out couples hours ago .. gosh, it's so simple .. i spent couple hours to read the link you gave me last month but i couldn't figure out .. i put it away .. 'til now my schedule allowed so i continued, but i was too lazy to read 'cause the more i read the more i got confused .. so i examined the css @ this page http://www.nguyentusweb.com/tho.html .. finally .. i got it .. it's unbelievably easy .. aren't you lucky (?) .. i'm not going to bother you about this (j/k :)) .. oh btw, i just realized 1 more thing .. my disable-right-click script really works in css ..they can view the source on my style sheet but they can't view the source in the pages .. cool thing (!) .. oh here's my work .. but not finished though ..
http://www.freewebs.com/tvu9/poetry1.htm
thank you so much, ..99
t.
Pretty, but "ouch" on the heavy script usage :)
As for the no-right-click script, if I were you, I'd get rid of it. It doesn't actually protect anything, and it'll just wind people up.
Also, try validating (http://validator.w3.org/) your pages.
oh okie .. thank you so much , Twey .. 99 ..
t.
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