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insanemonkey
11-13-2005, 10:39 PM
Ok.. I have tried to put my own music codes on my website.. you can see for your self's..www.insanemonkey.tk but when you click on the "play music" button. people cant here the music only me... I cant figure out how to do it...
please reply fast...?

jscheuer1
11-13-2005, 11:41 PM
The best I can tell is that kill.mp3 is a text file, looks like a playlist of some sort, perhaps. But, that's the wrong extension for a playlist, I think. Even if it were to be OK as an extension is this case, the file paths in the 'playlist' are set to those on your local hard drive. They would need to be set to a location on the server and the files themselves need to be there on the server to work for others.

insanemonkey
11-14-2005, 12:54 PM
I dont get it. Your saying that the songs have to be on the server. But I just coppied the songs from my Windows media player and for some reason it copys all of the songs. And I have tried to rename it .wav it wont work but for only me..

Wedgy
11-14-2005, 01:50 PM
You can't just rename a file. By the way, I used to get frustrated trying to save songs that I could easily play in a WindowsPlayer and put in a songlist, but could not download and have on the hard drive.

What often happens is there is no way to actually save the song itself as a file, only the playlist. This really sucks and I consider it obnoxious that you can 'download' a song, play it, but then have no way to save it as a proper mp3 or wav file even though you have it in memory somewhere.

In the old days, you could jump into a debugger or 'monitor' program from DOS, and copy any part of memory to disk as a binary file, so if you had it in memory, you could save it if you were clever.

Nowadays, every OS supplier and developer wants to keep you as far away from the OS and the mechanics of your own computer as possible, putting 'security' and 'proprietary' hidden layers between you and your own property, as well as keeping documentation either unintelligible or non-existant. They used to supply a text-editor and memory-dump/mini-assembler with your DOS. Those days are gone.

What you need to do is get a real copy of the song/music file you want to have on your site. You do this by downloading a pirated copy of the song from an offshore website, not by playing it in Mplayer. Once you download the real file, you can upload it to your website server and it will play from there.

If you want to actually pop open the hood (car analogy) and get into the physical mechanics of your computer OS, you are going to have to dump Microsoft and switch to LINUX, which is open-source code. Then if you spend a few years trying to be a programmer in C++ and Assembler, and you study the hardware resources of your clone, you might be able to mess around with your own OS, and write your own graphic routines and utilities.
But its no longer like it was in the days of the Apple II+ with 64k of RAM.

jscheuer1
11-14-2005, 04:58 PM
Whoa, slow down there Wedge. What you are talking about may violate the rules of this forum, particularly the part about pirate content. Anyways, perhaps none of that is needed in this case.

Disclaimer: None of this should be done, unless the copyright holder of the music gives permission.

I think insanemonkey may have the files needed already. Here are the contents of kill.mp3 (shortened here to fit in the allotted space):


<Asx Version = "3.0" >
<Param Name = "IsMediaCollectionQueryResult" Value = "1" />

<Param Name = "Name" Value = "Where You Want to Be Disc 1" />

<Param Name = "AllowShuffle" Value = "yes" />

<Entry>
<Title > Set Phasers to Stun</Title>

<Duration value = "00:03:3.333" />

<Param Name = "Name" Value = "Set Phasers to Stun" />

<Param Name = "Genre" Value = "Rock" />

<Param Name = "Artist" Value = "Taking Back Sunday" />

<Author > Taking Back Sunday</Author>

<Param Name = "Album" Value = "Where You Want to Be Disc 1" />

<Param Name = "MediaType" Value = "audio" />

<Param Name = "MediaAttribute" Value = "0" />

<Param Name = "TOC" Value = "B+96+364C+6CED+B583+FF28+130F8+1819B+1C30E+20792+24AD1+281BB+2D057" />

<Param Name = "OriginalIndex" Value = "0" />

<Param Name = "Bitrate" Value = "64646" />

<Param Name = "DigitallySecure" Value = "0" />

<Param Name = "PlayCount" Value = "0" />

<Param Name = "SourceURL" Value = "C:\My Documents\download\insanemonkey0123\Where You Want to Be Disc 1\01 Set Phasers to Stun.wma" />

<Param Name = "CreationDate" Value = "11/10/2005 8:26:23 PM" />

<Ref href = "C:\My Documents\download\insanemonkey0123\Where You Want to Be Disc 1\01 Set Phasers to Stun.wma"/>
</Entry>

I'm showing just one entry in the playlist, as an example (scroll to the end of the code area to see it). As you can clearly see it references a file on the hard drive "01 Set Phasers to Stun.wma". If this file is a real music file, then it can be uploaded to the server and its live location can be put in the playlist. If it is not a real music file on the hard drive but a shortcut to this content online somewhere, that path can be used in the playlist, provided this is OK with the original content provider.

Disclaimer: None of this should be done, unless the copyright holder of the music gives permission.

Wedgy
11-15-2005, 03:28 AM
Yes, I agree. I am not necessarily advocating breaking any laws.

My point was that these players either don't really download song files
to your hard drive, or if they do, they do it in a way (i.e. RAM/tempfile)
that is normally inaccessible to the user (sucker).

While I find it personally irritating, I am not inciting anyone to commit crimes over it.

I had the impression that the OP didn't understand the basic situation:
that he doesn't get actual access to the file, without actually buying it
and downloading a copy as a separate act, not just playing a song in
his Mplayer.

To clarify what I am talking about, consider the songs in my MUSIC folder:


JohnnyBGood.MP3.............4,977 KB
Ohio.WAV.......................... 330 KB
SomeLikeitHot.RAM..................1 KB

The difference in file size has nothing to do with the file format:
The first (MP3) happens to be a complete song, and functions as an independant file. Everything you need to play the song is in this file.

The 2nd entry (.WAV) is not really a proper song. Its a 'FREE' song download,
which actually turns out to be only the first 30 seconds of the song.
To get the whole song you have to buy it. This is just a teaser.

The 3rd entry (RAM) is the most interesting: It is a RealPlayer file that has no
music in it at all! Instead its a kind of pointer or link to some website where
the actual song is. But I can't use this file on my website, because it is
designed only to work with a legitimate copy of RealPlayer on a HOME system.
The 'player' that a webpage uses when any visitor goes to a site can also
be a pointer to a specially written version of Mplayer/Realplayer etc. meant
to be embedded and called via webpages. But these files will not play from
such a 'generic' music player (I think its a kind of Applet).

So downloading this pointer-file to my website is a waste of time.