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TheJoshMan
09-01-2008, 05:28 AM
Ok, so maybe this post should be in the "lounge", but I figured it kinda fits in this section too. Anyway, I was wondering if I could get a little feedback on the Typography style logo I came up with for my site...

Here's the link:
http://www.eight7teen.com

Master_script_maker
09-01-2008, 05:36 PM
cool. simple and stylish :)

Medyman
09-01-2008, 08:43 PM
I like the typography. I'm not sure I like the leaf and the 7 though. Overall, well done...

I gotta say that I am getting tired of that Wordpress theme though. lol. It's everywhere!

magicyte
09-01-2008, 11:19 PM
I like the logo. I also love the part where in the bottom right-hand corner it says "Owner feuled by Mt.Dew". My mom loves Mt. Dew. She is also feuled by it.

-magicyte

Twey
09-01-2008, 11:37 PM
I'm not really a fan of anything that doesn't have brush-strokes or serifs, so I dislike it :)

magicyte
09-02-2008, 01:37 AM
Man, I LOVE brush strokes.

-magicyte

TheJoshMan
09-02-2008, 02:53 AM
cool. simple and stylish :)

I like the typography. I'm not sure I like the leaf and the 7 though. Overall, well done...

I gotta say that I am getting tired of that Wordpress theme though. lol. It's everywhere!


I like the logo. I also love the part where in the bottom right-hand corner it says "Owner feuled by Mt.Dew". My mom loves Mt. Dew. She is also feuled by it.

-magicyte

I'm not really a fan of anything that doesn't have brush-strokes or serifs, so I dislike it :)

@master_script_maker: Thanks, that's what I was going for...

@medyman: Really? You think the leaf just doesn't quite fit? I was sort of unsure about it, but I wanted to do something "unique" with the seven rather than making the whole name plain text.

@magicyte: Thanks, and yea... I think it would be safe to say that I have an ADDICTION to Mt. Dew! LOL

@Twey: BOO! LOL, that's your personal preference... I like brushstrokes as well, but I don't think I could have made them "work" for something that I wanted to look "Simple" and "Clean". I always tend to lean more towards "grunge" when I use brush strokes. LOL

Twey
09-02-2008, 03:38 AM
Uh, I was talking more about Han characters than Latin ones :) Brush strokes in Latin tend to look sort of messy.

Medyman
09-02-2008, 01:18 PM
@medyman: Really? You think the leaf just doesn't quite fit? I was sort of unsure about it, but I wanted to do something "unique" with the seven rather than making the whole name plain text.

It's definitely unique. It seems like a bit of an afterthought, though. Like you forgot to include the 7 and then didn't have room so you stuck it in the leaf. I think the problem I'm having is with figuring out how the leaf ties in -- with the name or w/ the site. If it were a recurring motif, maybe it would make more sense.

For me, it breaks the flow of the logotype. Otherwise, again, love the composition.

TheJoshMan
09-03-2008, 10:56 PM
thanks for all the input... Maybe I'll rethink it. I never really thought of it that way, (afterthought).

the penguin
09-29-2008, 03:24 PM
The typeface works, the color works. But the leaf and the font for the 7 doesn't work for me. And i have no clue why the lowercase e is reversed. When designers make decisions like that, they usually have meaning unless they're completely abstract. Perhaps you can provide the connotation behind your design decisions to convince me it's working.

Take for instance the logo on http://www.therealcosts.com. It has a leaf because it's causing awareness about the effects that CO2 emissions have on our earth. That leaf makes sense.

Other than that, the site looks great! :)

magicyte
10-02-2008, 09:24 PM
Ah. I see you still haven't changed it. I do see that you made a new tutorial on menubars on your site. Interesting, too...

-magicyte

TheJoshMan
10-02-2008, 09:29 PM
yea, i have come to the conclusion that i'm not really a "designer"... I guess I was strictly meant to "code". So I suppose I'm going to have to break down and try to find someone to do it for me. LOL

Medyman
10-02-2008, 11:39 PM
Hey Josh...

I just checked out that tutorial that magicyte mentions in his post above. I love the little popup thing you've done with those screenshots. Very nice!!

Don't mean to be a nag, but I just noticed that everything below "Part II - The Code" in the same post is behaving - CSS wise - in Safari.

TheJoshMan
10-02-2008, 11:41 PM
LOL, thanks man. You have NO IDEA how long it took to add that to EACH AND EVERY step!

So I'm glad to see it's noticed and appreciated! LOL

TheJoshMan
10-03-2008, 01:32 AM
holy $h1t!

WTF is goin on there? I hadn't even seen that yet!!!!

Well, I guess here goes another all nighter.

lulzury
10-04-2008, 12:51 AM
Simplistic and nice. Maybe you should play around with the gray shades on the logo until you get it just right.

TheJoshMan
10-05-2008, 08:28 AM
Ok, so I took into consideration the things you all have pointed out and redone the logo.

(I also gave my site a "slogan"!) LOL

Let's hear the thoughts this time around...


The Link (http://eight7teen.com)

Medyman
10-05-2008, 07:12 PM
What typeface are you using?

TheJoshMan
10-05-2008, 10:13 PM
Myriad Pro

Medyman
10-06-2008, 12:49 AM
Have you considered a typeface with a bit more personality (http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=501&text=eight7teen)? I'm appreciating that you're going for visual interest and playfulness but Myriad Pro (to me) invokes a less playful, more corporate or at least clean, rigid and banal feeling. When I think Myriad Pro, I think WalMart and iPods. I don't see your site fitting into that sort of branding.

I'm making some huge assumptions here. Ignore them if I'm totally off-base.

the penguin
10-06-2008, 08:45 PM
Wow, much different from the last one. That was a total 180 from the last treatment. Here are my thoughts, feedback:

Again just like the leaf, it's confusing why you threw an image in there. I have no clue why the question mark is there. What is its significance?

The unbalanced dotted "i" also makes no sense to me.

I completely agree with Medyman about the font. It has no character, no personality. Your logo should convey a feeling of learning, creating, and inspiring without adding those words.

If you're going to incorporate an image, it should have those three meanings behind it in a very simplistic way.

TheJoshMan
10-06-2008, 09:19 PM
@medyman:

I was actually going for a "clean" look. I didn't want anything which looked to "playful" because I wanted to be taken seriously. However, I suppose I may try something a little different font-wise, as I don't want to be mistaken as "stiff", "stuck-up", or "posh".

@penguin:

The question mark actually has a purpose. The "?" is the global symbol for information. This is what my site is all about. Information and learning. Learning happens through questions, also affiliated with the "?".

Also, the "unbalanced" dot for the "i" was meant to tie in the color of the seven.



@anyone:

I suppose the reason it is so hard to achieve a logo which "makes sense" is due to the fact that the actual name of the site itself really has nothing to do with what the site is about. The name was derived from the date of my marriage. (FYI) LOL

Medyman
10-07-2008, 02:02 AM
I was actually going for a "clean" look. I didn't want anything which looked to "playful" because I wanted to be taken seriously. However, I suppose I may try something a little different font-wise, as I don't want to be mistaken as "stiff", "stuck-up", or "posh".

In that case, the logo is sending mixed messages. The typeface might work with a more regular presentation. What would serve you best is to see what fits the general aesthetic of your site/brand. A well done logo/logotype will proclaim your professionalism a lot more than a "formal" font. In your case, I don't see the use of a less strict typeface being or alluding to lack of professionalism.

I'd say add some visual interest in your choice of typeface rather than going with an unconventional layout/presentation. You have a website related to a creative industry. Don't be afraid to experiment a little and do something on the more playful side (maybe not this (http://www.dafont.com/soda.font?text=Eight7Teen), but this (http://www.dafont.com/blox.font?text=Eight7Teen) or this (http://www.dafont.com/bebas.font?text=Eight7Teen) could work).

Sorry if I'm being annoying. Just tell me to shut up when you've had enough of my pretentious typophile talk.

the penguin
10-07-2008, 02:56 PM
Although Dafont is a great resource for fonts. 90% of good logos are created with well known fonts that have been created by type specialists. Just my opinion, but your on the right track with the second one. Myriad Pro could work if used the right way. I would recommend staying away from Dafont for this logo inparticular.

You're probably already familiar with these resources, but if you're not, they are good:

fonts (http://www.modernlifeisrubbish.co.uk/article/great-fonts-for-web-2.0)

fonts (http://fontfeed.com/archives/the-logos-of-web-20/)

Medyman
10-07-2008, 11:38 PM
Although Dafont is a great resource for fonts. 90% of good logos are created with well known fonts that have been created by type specialists.

Even though that is extremely generalized, I'd tend to agree with you for overall branding and identity purposes. But in designing a logo for a website, there is a much wider range for creativity in both presentation and choice of type.

In any case, I meant my examples to be illustrative. I wasn't recommending the use of those particular typefaces. Plus, I'm assuming Josh isn't in the market to spend hundreds of dollars on purchasing type. So, Dafont ends up being a good, creative alternative.

TheJoshMan
10-08-2008, 02:42 AM
@medyman:

Right you are about me not really wanting to spend a few hundred buckaroos on a font face... However, if you would be interested... You could maybe send me a couple samples of things you've done and maybe we could come to some sort of agreement?

I'm beginning to lose interest in this quickly as I am slowly realizing that maybe I was intended to be a *coder*, not a designer.

the penguin
10-08-2008, 01:26 PM
Here's an idea.

We'll have a little logo workshop. I'll design 3 treatments of your logo for you (free of charge).

Medyman will do the same (hopefully).

Then we'll post the 6 of them up here for heads to view and discuss them.

What do you think Medyman? I could tell you know your type. Do you have the time, like the idea?

I think it will be fun.

Outcome:

Nyne Lyves will have options to choose from and will end up with a dope logo.

Twey
10-08-2008, 02:53 PM
A dope logo (http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/uploads/1152184-1146043-Marijuana-VOTE-logo.jpg)?

the penguin
10-08-2008, 04:31 PM
Excuse my slang, I was born and bred in Brooklyn, still live here.

I meant a snazzy, clean, fitting logo. ;)

TheJoshMan
10-08-2008, 08:35 PM
wow, something good for FREE? I'm all ears! LOL

I really appreciate you even taking the interest in doing that for me. I really do.

Medyman
10-09-2008, 07:35 PM
What do you think Medyman? I could tell you know your type. Do you have the time, like the idea?

I'm always up for some good competition. Unfortunately, I'm a bit busy for the next week. We're wrapping up some large client projects next week that have been going on for far too long. After that, I'm up for it.

What are the rules?

a++
10-10-2008, 12:36 AM
I am completely fond of your site's image. I love the way that the leaf is slightly tilted, though the 7 could go...

===

The distant cousin of c++,
a++

TheJoshMan
10-10-2008, 12:59 AM
I am completely fond of your site's image. I love the way that the leaf is slightly tilted, though the 7 could go...

1. You must be viewing a cached version of my site, because my logo no longer has the leaf image in it.

2. The seven can't really "go", as it's part of the name of the site (Eight7Teen.com) LOL

jimbob79
10-14-2008, 12:56 AM
I like your logo, but I do think it's a bit drab...

TheJoshMan
10-14-2008, 05:32 PM
i'm workin on a new one...

TheJoshMan
10-15-2008, 01:41 PM
yea, that lasted all of about an hour or two...

anybody still up for that design challenge? LOL

I'm not comin up with anything good.

the penguin
10-16-2008, 09:58 PM
I'm still up for it, i've been mad swamped at work plus my supervisor is going on vacate for a week so i'm a bit busy, but i'm still up for it. :D

Clark Wells
10-18-2008, 01:39 AM
Really nice and simple looking. Really like the layout and the Logo... I also like your RSS image.... Did you come up with that??? or did you find it somwhere??? i have never seen that one before.

TheJoshMan
10-18-2008, 04:40 AM
i got the rss icon from here...

http://www.visual-blast.com/graphics/icons/free-alien-icon-set/

TheJoshMan
10-19-2008, 05:24 AM
Ok, so I took medyman's advice and decided to try something more "playful" and creative. I've got a little "iconic head" image that really suits ME personally, and would like to somehow incorporate it into the overall logo design, as it will be like the "mascot" of the site and me personally.
(I'm using it as my avatar right now)
I have the psd of the head thingy which is MUCH MUCH larger and higher detail.

So, if by chance anyone is still interested in what was mentioned in this post (http://dynamicdrive.com/forums/showpost.php?p=164874&postcount=28), whenever you want to start working on it just let me know and I'll send the PSD so you can incorporate it into the design.