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ashy
04-24-2008, 02:39 PM
Is there a code somewhere that disallows people to copy mt stories/poems? I've looked and I can't seem to find a easy code to use. Help?

Nile
04-24-2008, 02:42 PM
Well, one thing is that you can use flash or images, in that way it would be hard to get the content. You can also use Creative Commons.

ashy
04-24-2008, 02:53 PM
Yeah, I'm not so good with codes, thus my joining of this forum and this question. I have no clue what those are. STORY LINK (http://www.quizilla.com/users/ashy-cakess/quizzes/Captured%20%5BIntroduction%5D/) I want to disable right-clicking and copying/pasting of that story. How do I do it?

Nile
04-24-2008, 02:55 PM
Theres not really a use of doing that, put it this way. If something is so precious to you, don't put it on the net.
Hope this Helps,
Nile

ashy
04-24-2008, 02:58 PM
No, not really. But thanks for your time anyway.

boogyman
04-24-2008, 05:41 PM
ashy, anything that you publish on the internet can be broken down and accessed.

A "Creative Commons" license is a license that says your work is your own personal intellectual property, but it is free to view and save for personal / not commercial use.

disabling right click, and not allowing copy/paste or view source and all that stuff is fine and dandy, but its VERY easy for someone to just disable the script that is creating those effects, its not really worth the effort in the first place.

as Nile said, you can "detract" browsers from using your poems by placing them in an image, which you can do by just taking a screen capture (visual representation of your monitor screen) and using an image editing program like paint or photoshop etc... to crop (resize) it to your dimensions then put it up on the web as an image.
This would force the user to re-type the work, however as I initially stated, nothing, i repeat, NOTHING published on the web is free from "hijack"

Medyman
04-24-2008, 05:49 PM
Ahh, the eternal debate! Ashy, though you might not agree with what Nile has suggested, he's just saving you time.

You can go to great lengths to protect your content but if someone wants your content, they'll get it. There is not sure-fire way to protect content -- in any form. And really you shouldn't.

The more restrictions you put on people, the more they're going to try to get around it. it's just human nature. But if you treat them with respect and assume that they are upstanding citizens that will respect your creativity and art, than I think you'll be surprised at how willing people are to abide by your requests.

I got my start in web design/development by creating sites for photographers. My first 10 sites were for photographers. And I've had this debate with everyone of them. In the end, they've all agreed with my thoughts and we've removed any deterrance from downloading the images -- there are some limitations (lower quality images, some are in flash) but those are for stylistic and functionality reasons as much as security.

The artists get emails weekly from people requesting permission to use the images. Sometimes they're granted, sometimes they're not. But the people are respectful, because they're treated with respect.

This conversation isn't just about how to script something to disable left clicking, it's a deeper philosophical question about intellectual rights. For me it boils down the comparison between print and online media. Publishers don't go to lengths to protect print pieces...why is the Internet any different. I can easily go to the local library, pick up any book I want, copy it verbatim and claim it to be mine. Of course there are legal ramifications but there are no physical bans on me doing that. The same logic should apply to the web..

So, as Nile said, if you're worried about your work's security, the Internet might not be the greatest place for it.

What I would do, and have done on the sites I mentioned, is place a clearly visible copyright and usage policy for your work. Go the legal route...not the disable everything and restrict your users route.

ashy
04-24-2008, 06:14 PM
ughh fiiine. thanks guys anyway :P

djr33
04-24-2008, 10:45 PM
It's easier to steal than protect, in the way that the internet is setup. It's that simple. It doesn't matter how good you are at protecting your content-- someone can still steal it, and much more easily than you would have to work to stop them-- at any level. There are a few ways to make it harder, but again, each of these is easily defeated.

COPYRIGHT is a different issue, but since you brought it up, here a few pointers:
1. Anything you make it copyrighted. This post is copyrighted to me, in fact, in some sense. You don't need a notice and you don't need to register it-- it just is, by being created by you, your intellectual property.
2. Someone can steal it and the most effective means of stopping them would be to send a cease and desist letter, followed by a lawsuit, if it is worth that much to you. Unfortunately it can be difficult to reasonably stop someone from stealing something not worth enough to go to court.
3. A simple copyright notie (© is the html code for the copyright symbol) at the bottom of your page will scare some people off.
4. Contacting an ISP/host for someone who stole your material may cause their account to be shut down.
5. Creative commons, etc., are a great way to specify exactly what rights people do have with your material. Anything important, I'd suggest considering that.

And most importantly anything on the internet can and will be stolen if someone cares enough. There is absolutely no way to protect your content 100%.
If you do use one of the less effective methods, you'll find that it will stop a lot of people, but it won't stop the people who were stealing in the first place, because they know how to get around it anyway, just like carrying a knife won't protect you from a gun shot.

Nile
04-24-2008, 10:58 PM
Hmm, it seems that the topic is solved, the more you say "Thats my content!", "I'm banning you!", "Right click disabled!". The more they say "Its mine now!", "I'll use a proxy!", "I can use the CTRL button!". So there you have it. :D

Medyman
04-24-2008, 11:23 PM
Hmm, it seems that the topic is solved, the more you say "Thats my content!", "I'm banning you!", "Right click disabled!". The more they say "Its mine now!", "I'll use a proxy!", "I can use the CTRL button!". So there you have it. :D

Right on the button. Darn thieves!!

I say let people steal if that's their wish. It can be on their conscience. Unless it has direct impact to your business, in which legal action would be in order, it's not worth the time and energy.

tech_support
04-25-2008, 05:11 AM
This would force the user to re-type the workOr you could use OCR software.

Nile
04-25-2008, 05:14 AM
Right on the button.

Lol, ahh! Hes coming after me with a gun! What should I do!?
Press CTRL + X! Then when they're gone press CTRL + V, that will keep you hidden!

boogyman
04-25-2008, 03:35 PM
no you need to hit

Ctrl+Alt+F4 10 times fast :-P