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fileserverdirect
12-29-2007, 02:52 AM
I think I have dug a hole too deep to get out of...

O.K. Here's the run down:

Bought Server
Gave it to myself for Christmas
Downloaded this to a disk: http://www.nuonce.net/bq-cd.php
Put in in the server.
Did ALL the iP stuff\ config.
The website just says to "Open the GUI interface" all I am getting is a shell command thingie (I am not a command line person :rolleyes:)
Re-installed again, same problem...
HELP!

What I am trying to say is that there is any command line I can do to get to this GUI?? :confused:

Twey
12-29-2007, 02:54 AM
The website won't load. I suggest just installing Fedora or something. As for the GUI, most servers don't run GUIs in order to avoid the extra overhead, which isn't really necessary on a server.

fileserverdirect
12-29-2007, 03:04 AM
IDK, It loads on my end, And Blue Quartz is a GUI, thats why I installed it, Im just stuck at a MS-DOS-like screen where the last line is:
[root@localhost] ~]# _ And I'm stuck from there. I don't know all these commands. Have you ever installed Red Hat Linux? That's what it's based on. I am completely lost. completly. completly.

Twey
12-29-2007, 05:11 AM
It doesn't look like BlueQuartz is very well supported, and there's not much documentation. Perhaps it has a web or VNC interface.

tech_support
12-29-2007, 06:15 AM
I think you can install centOS and follow the instructions to install Webmin.

fileserverdirect
12-29-2007, 04:19 PM
I think you can install centOS and follow the instructions to install Webmin.
Not shure what you mean.

But, I looked online about installing it... After you install it on your computer, you need to "Access your server via a web browser to complete the insallation..."
One Problem, the server is technally not online, when the installation wizard asked "IP Address: _", I gave it a local network address because it's not ready to go online. I did not buy another IP yet, would it be possable to assign it the one that my other computers are using... woudn't that be unsafe? I still have to default username and password, how do I change it?

Twey
12-29-2007, 08:54 PM
One Problem, the server is technally not online, when the installation wizard asked "IP Address: _", I gave it a local network address because it's not ready to go online.Where's the problem? Access it by that address.

fileserverdirect
12-29-2007, 10:28 PM
I tryed entering in the address in Internet Explorer:

HTTP 404: Page cannot be found
It was not a server message, it was an IE message.
I am using a cable from another computer untill I get things stragitend out, so, just a guess, I typed in the local address of the computer I was stealling a cable, monitor, and mouse from(I had an extra keyboard) , no luck...
Anyways, I have a router that it is hooked up to, To you have to "Add" another computer, or assaign the server a local ip address? :confused:

Twey
12-29-2007, 10:32 PM
Does your router have DHCP server support?

fileserverdirect
12-29-2007, 10:39 PM
One second, gotta find that router box....

Yes, this is what's on the box:

Routing protocalls:
Static & Dynamic Routing with TCP/IP VPN pass-though(IPSec), L2TP,NAT,PPPoE,DHCP (client & server)

etc...

Twey
12-29-2007, 11:33 PM
Then you don't want to assign the server's IP manually... you'd want to have it get it via DHCP.

thetestingsite
12-29-2007, 11:34 PM
Do you assign the ip addresses to your computers? Like your main computer is 192.168.1.100, your other ones are 192.168.1.101-105 (just an example, but you get the idea). If so, you can just assign a static ip address on your local network range. Then, access the server by typing in that address in the browser.

Hope this helps.

Sorry Twey, cross posted. Either way, you can do assign a static ip address that is in the network range. I do that with pretty much all the computers I have at home, and we do the same at work; unless it needs to be dynamically assigned.

fileserverdirect
12-30-2007, 12:45 AM
I am confused. For the IP address durring the setup, I entered 192.168.1.5, My laptop is 192.168.1.2, My router is 192.168.1.1 and my desktop is 192.168.1.3, I left *.4 open just in case my mom gets her vista laptop (I tryed to tell her :rolleyes:). If it does need this DHCP, How do I access it?

thetestingsite
12-30-2007, 02:05 AM
well, if you assigned the ip address of x.x.1.5, you can access it by that address as long as it is in the range of your LAN (Local Network). If it still doesn't work, try pinging it from a separate computer to see if it is in fact connected to the network. If you do not get a reply from the ping, you should check the ip configuration on that server as well as the router (to see if it is set up correctly).

Hope this helps.

fileserverdirect
12-30-2007, 07:44 PM
Well It all turns out that it was my own error. I mixed up the Gateway and Netmask numbers. I was able to finish the installation and access the server via web browser. I also had to turn off DHCP on my router, and assign static numbers to my computers.
Thanks everyone!

Twey
12-31-2007, 12:37 AM
I still say you should install something else.

boxxertrumps
01-03-2008, 06:31 PM
Seconded.
You might want to try typing yum install kde-base into the root prompt, to get a gui. Assuming you have yum installed. i'm not sure if redhat has that by default.

fileserverdirect
01-04-2008, 08:32 PM
It says you need to "be root" in order to use yum install...
. I am not "root" but I am admin, I was using the "Remote Connect" tab on the control pannel.

tech_support
01-05-2008, 12:25 AM
Seconded.
You might want to try typing yum install kde-base into the root prompt, to get a gui. Assuming you have yum installed. i'm not sure if redhat has that by default.
Yes it does.


It says you need to "be root" in order to use yum install...
. I am not "root" but I am admin, I was using the "Remote Connect" tab on the control pannel.

Use sudo yum install ....

fileserverdirect
01-05-2008, 03:38 AM
OK, what is the password? It asks me for a password, I enter my admin pass in and it says that "admin is not on the list of sudoers, this incident will be reported" :confused:

tech_support
01-05-2008, 09:50 AM
I'm really hoping it's not:

Username: root
Password: [blank]

fileserverdirect
01-05-2008, 02:57 PM
Well, when I entered "" [blank], nothing happend, it just went to the normal command propmt. And (just to be on the safe side) I went to the GUI YUM Tab (lol) and checked to see if "kde-base" was in the list... it wasn't. But there was 88 entries in it :rolleyes:
.

BLiZZaRD
01-05-2008, 04:59 PM
normal prompt:



[username@localhost ~]$

then you type "su" and hit enter to "S"witch "U"ser to root. asks for password. If you enter nothing and the new prompt looks similar to:



[root@localhost username]#


Then you are now root and there was no password.

fileserverdirect
01-05-2008, 05:54 PM
How do I get to the "normal prompt"?
My propmt looks like this:

-bash-3.00$
I am using mindterm, do I need to access the acutal server (a big pain)?

BLiZZaRD
01-05-2008, 05:57 PM
No, that's MY normal prompt. LOL the important thing here (and I will bow out of this thread afterwards) is the $ and #.

From what I remember, $ is low(er) level user and # is root (admin - upper level) user.

After you enter your password, regardless of prompt, you should see a # at the end.

This may be different for this Blue Oyster Cult thingy but I don't think so.

fileserverdirect
01-05-2008, 06:01 PM
Then HOW did I change it and HOW can I get it back, if I am the stupid server admin!

BLiZZaRD
01-05-2008, 06:11 PM
Not sure.. read the BQS Faqs and found this:



"root" can't login by default using SSH. You must enable it!


Does that help?

fileserverdirect
01-05-2008, 06:27 PM
I did some resaerch and I got to become root!
anways when i typed in "yum install kde-base" It did it... kinda... what I means is that it did the command, checked the folders and said

Nothing to do.
and the normal prompt came up again...
IDK