Who do you not Love?

[jscheuer1]

The purpose of this very informal poll is to determine which company you have the most negative feelings toward. Is it Microsoft, or some other company that makes Computer and Server Operating Systems? I'm only interested in:

Microsoft

Any Other that makes Computer and Server Operating Systems

In your post, you may name the other company if you like, but for the poll, just choose Microsoft or Any Other.

[djr33]

I can't pick. I hate any company that has annoying ads and tricks unaware users into doing stupid things, and Microsoft is a great example of that. And so is Apple, though to a lesser degree (exception being ipods).

I really dislike Sun, for some random reasons. Nothing as important as why I don't like M$, though.

[tech_support]

I have quite a grudge against Apple, mainly due to the driving-me-insane ads that they put during the afternoon.

But yeah, Microsoft... it's rich, it's powerful, it's like Oprah. Everyone disses it 'cause they're everywhere.

Oh, and FYI, I don't "like" Microsoft as well.

[lainlives]

This is a tough one, i dont like windows, but i dont really got something against microsoft, although i think that bill is getting too much power in the world

[boogyman]

This is a tough one, i dont like windows, but i dont really got something against microsoft, although i think that bill is getting too much power in the world

I cant remember which news cast but supposedly he may be stepping down from CEO to devote more time to his charity which gives away $4/5 Billion each year in humanitarian / education development

I would have to say Apple/Macintosh. I have never really had a good experience with those OS, so while Micro$haft is a very big annoyance to me, I still have at least been able to last a couple of sessions without being frustrated and wanting to beat up the computer. haha yah I know sad huh... Office Space anyone? :p

[Trinithis]

I don't like macs.

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/38000/38127qvXU.jpg
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/38000/382002mOL.png

(Maybe it's a grudge from the old days of macs, but if it is, it's lasting.)

[Twey]

I'd have to say that Apple's practices are, on the whole, as bad as or worse than Microsoft's: they're just not as big so they don't get noticed as much. Still, since they kicked up this whole DRM fuss in the first place, I'm voting Apple.

[djr33]

I agree in a way, Twey, but their computers are really nice... people like them. Windows is annoying, conversely.


Hmm.... just to continue our linguistic/semantic debates, John, I think the title should technically be "Whom do you not love", but I'll readily admit I'm spending too much time in my latin class (or not enough, perhaps).

[jscheuer1]

Well it looks like Apple is the clear winner at this writing. However, due to the paucity of Mac's in both the server and and PC arenas, MS could easily be deemed the putative winner in the sense of number of systems disdained.


Hmm.... just to continue our linguistic/semantic debates, John, I think the title should technically be "Whom do you not love", but I'll readily admit I'm spending too much time in my latin class (or not enough, perhaps).

Word's grammar checker liked it.

[Trinithis]

'Who' is correct.

**edit**
'Whom' is correct as well, although, it is more correct. (Yes, I know something cannot be 'more' correct. Either it is or it isn't.)

[djr33]

Accusative form. Though, perhaps in modern English it's only the dative and ablative that still differ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declension_in_English#Old_masculine.2Ffeminine_to_the_modern_person
//shrug

[Twey]

djr33 is right, it's accusative and thus should technically be "whom." "Whom" as a whole seems to have dropped out of English, however, especially in America. That's likely why Microsoft Word's grammar checker didn't have a problem with it.

[jscheuer1]

Yes, current usage generally trumps old and awkward sounding adherence to the ultimately plastic rules of a language:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=v0Z&q=who+do+you+love%3F&btnG=Search

And, when it technically doesn't, it sooner or later will, even in the halls of academia. That is how language evolves over time.

Don't believe me? The word 'helped' (past tense of to help), used to be incorrect. The correct form used to be some irregular verb that has long since disappeared.


. . . to boldly go where no man has gone before. ;)

[Twey]

The correct form used to be some irregular verb that has long since disappeared."Holp."

[djr33]

I'm going to start using that!

[Twey]

It should be noted that it's an irregular inflection of the same verb, to get pedantic :) Split infinitives are a bit of a bad example here, I must say. The reason that they're popular now is because nobody's ever been entirely sure whether they're correct or not.

[jscheuer1]

infinitive.split();

[djr33]

Split infinitives are weird. They're not really covered in any other languages, as they are single words, so it would be impossible to split a word in half and therefore wrong; so, I would suppose that means it's not really wrong in English... just very strange, and improper, perhaps.

[Twey]

Well, that's the core of the debate: whether the "actual verb" is, for example, the full "to run" or simply "run."

People should learn to not use split infinitives!

[jscheuer1]

Oh, I stand corrected:


infinitive.split(' ');