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fileserverdirect
09-04-2007, 02:26 PM
Hi,
Well just the other day I was in the middle of feeling happy(figured out a bug in a php script) when A pop-up box came up saying Norton Internet Security Suite 2005 is invalid. The key is invalid. A little alarm in my head said somthing wasn't right. I opened the program and it said "Trial Period Expired" even thogh this is the second time we bought the subscription, about 3 months ago for $39. The program said it was valid until July 08. I talked to Symatic (or whatever their company is) and did a 2 hour live chat session with no luck, the key was inavlid. I have no way to tell if I have I virus now, because I cannot use for virus-detecting software! Pretty smart of those hackers. But so stupid, what kind of virus replaces your key with a bogus one, and deletes itself, without any harm to the computer. My computer is runing fast (despite the low RAM). Anyways, any H-E-L-P. For all I know I may have 30 key-loggers with Trojans and Virus, and a few system files deleted.

-F.S.D.

boogyman
09-04-2007, 02:59 PM
1) norton = crap
2) norton = crap
3) evidence = your case

anyway there is a free virus scanning site that I have found that is really really good at detecting any malware on a system
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

If that finds any trojans / virus's after its done you should reboot and run it again... and keep running it until you have no more found.. because sometimes these things run off each other / disable each other, so to be sure that you do not have anythign on your system you should continually do reboot / scan every time that something is found

also you might want to get some type of registry cleaner. there is a free one called EURSING FREE REGISTRY CLEANER that I have found does a good job at cleaning up your registry from broken / adware / un-needed programs
http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm

as for the future, I would suggest that you do not pay for anti-virus software, there are plenty of programs on the web that offer some great services, like the housecall... but that one does a post-infection scan. to get realtime capabilities, you might try somethign called AVG or AVAST... both of those I believe have free versions that are good.

Ryan Fitton
09-04-2007, 03:09 PM
Try using the free version of avg (http://free.grisoft.com/doc/download-free-anti-virus/us/frt/0) :)

thetestingsite
09-04-2007, 03:12 PM
or even clamav (http://www.clamav.net/) or clamwin (http://www.clamwin.com/).

Hope this helps.

fileserverdirect
09-04-2007, 04:17 PM
I am not going to completely dup N.I.S.S. it is a Suite so it contains Norton Anti Virus, Norton Internet Securtiy (with ad blocking), and Norton Anti-Spam (I need Anti Spam the most because I signed up for one bogus thing and 3000 spammers have my email address. I get at least 30 spam messages a day and Norton Anti Spam gets 25/30 of them)

thetestingsite
09-04-2007, 04:51 PM
There are plenty of anti-spam, anti-spy/adware, ad blockers, etc out there. I have found in the past that the Norton Internet Suite is way over-rated and also very processor intensive. I have also found that there are many other programs that do the exact same thing as (but even better than) Norton that are also free.

Either way, just my opinions.

Twey
09-04-2007, 05:20 PM
I need Anti Spam the most because I signed up for one bogus thing and 3000 spammers have my email address. I get at least 30 spam messages a day and Norton Anti Spam gets 25/30 of themI get about the same statistics from Thunderbird's built-in adaptive spam filter (hint: never show your email address on DD unless you've got one heck of a spam filter in place).

tech_support
09-05-2007, 06:22 AM
(hint: never show your email address on DD unless you've got one heck of a spam filter in place).

Oops. No wonder I get Viagra spam. (And also the fake US Tax Return... even though I don't live in the US) Luckily, G-Mail filters it.

fileserverdirect
09-06-2007, 12:40 AM
I may have to revise my latest post a little:
I may have sigend up for more than one bogus thing, but I think the real problem is that I had A phpBB2 fourm for a while. An phpBB2 dispalys your email address in your profile. In a week I had about 120 users 119 were bots posting **** and car ads on the site, even with CATCHPA or whater its called.

(hint: never show your email address on DD unless you've got one heck of a spam filter in place).
I am not that stupid(tech_support:)).
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Right now, I think I shoud find out what went worng with the program, after all I payed good $$$$$MONEY$$$$$$ and I am ready to sue Symsmatic(well by ready I mean, I still havent got a lawyer yet but....... OK YOU GOT ME I, am not going to sue at somthing that I may spend thousands on a lawyer and not get anyware while Symatic(whatever) has 1000 lawyers for virus stuff.)

techno_race
09-16-2007, 06:56 PM
even with CATCHPA or whater its called.
CAPTCHA.



(hint: never show your email address on DD unless you've got one heck of a spam filter in place).
hahaha
I do. It's caught about 517 spam messages in the last month :)

forum_amnesiac
06-05-2009, 07:33 AM
Doesn't sound a lot different to Zonealarm and many other products out there does it.

Market share is often reflected in the price but does not always equate to the best, look at Ford and GM.

I'd rather have a Volvo, Audi or VW.

This is not a dig at Norton, just my reflections on keeping an open mind.

X96 Web Design
06-05-2009, 11:47 PM
I have an even better solution than buying/getting an antivirus...

GET LINUX! :D Linux is not vulnerable to viruses, and has very good built-in virus protection.

Windows is the only OS that gets Viruses (not sure about MAC, pretty sure not though.)

May I recommend Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com).

And if you already have Linux, consider it a good excuse to use Windows less... ;)

// X96 \\

Schmoopy
06-06-2009, 12:08 AM
As has been brought up many times before...

Just because you get a Mac or a Linux doesn't mean you're immune to getting viruses. If these OSs were more popular then more viruses would be written for them.

thetestingsite
06-06-2009, 12:46 AM
Although they are rare, there are some viruses out there for both Mac and Linux. I had a friend who had one on his Mac and it was a lot harder to remove from it than it is from a Windows machine (I believe he had to do a complete re-install of OS X).

X96 Web Design
06-06-2009, 03:43 AM
What I meant was "Not AS Vulnerable"...

Linux is open-source, and 99% of hackers want a challenge, MAC and Windaze aren't open-source, so hackers face themselves with a challenge...

With Linux, it's all right there - making it too easy, which is boring, and you can't really be called a hacker...

That's just how I think of it...

Plus I get an update every other day for a security patch or fix. It's all built right into the system core, therefore eliminating the need for a program.

// X96 \\