New Design (Again)

[mburt]

So I totally reinvented my site, from scratch:
http://mburt.mb.funpic.org/
It uses a file structure system, so if I add a folder in the "links" folder, eg. New Folder, it will add to the menu automatically. Then that directory file will read the contents of that folder and put links under the corresponding directory.
Also, the new design is pretty :).
Feel free to comment on anything, I like constructive critisism.

[boogyman]

you mean it needs to be constructive? :p hehe not too shabby mate. not too shabby at all. I like your new design, but only question i got is how do you exclude your php extension?

eg ( mburt.mb.funpic.org?page=archives.df )

[mburt]

I have to to identify the folders from the actual pages. As you may have noted, "?page=articles.df" is a directory, but "?page=links" is not. All the pages are ran from the index.php. I could set the keyword to "-df-" if I wanted to, I use variables to control everything. ".df" seemed accurate (directory file), it has no effect on the way the page is displayed either.

The index page is incredibly complex, so I had to use alot of variables. It's about 10kb.

[boogyman]

what i was asking is how do you have it so that it omits the index.php and just shows the rest?

[mburt]

If the index file is in say:
mysite/index.php

it can also be opened as:
mysite/

By default, the "index" file is loaded.

[boogyman]

oh thanks mate... I thought that was only true for html files, but I guess I was wrong

[killerchutney]

looking good!!
one (and the only) thing I would say is increase the left/ right padding around the menu. I think it would look less cluttered that way.

[boogyman]

dont know if you have a "discussion forum" anywhere on there, but for your "box script" you only have the ability to flip xy, x, y axis once, I am thinking if you add another parameter to the flip function and if its hit a second time it will reverse the flip ? and what is the "rotate auto" button for? it doesnt seem to do anything

[Jas]

Great site. I like the window script; it could come in very handy in web pages.

[mburt]

boogyman: Move your arrow keys, it rotates with a third level.

Jas: Hehe... just so you know, mine isn't really complete. And DD has a better one :D

[Twey]

So what exactly is a "third-party browser?" :)

Nice design, but you should update to HTML Strict. Sending a proper HTTP 404 page (with header) would be a better idea than serving blank articles, too.
Another good idea would be to allow arbitrary levels of directories, and/or use mod_rewrite to make your URLs a little more presentable. A good idea would be to have the pages include the template, rather than the other way around. That would skip all the faking and code required for the above and let users simply go to, say, /articles/firefox.

[mburt]

It is in "testing" form, and I'll try to validate it. The problem with the htaccess suggestion is that my server doesn't allow it. It would, in fact be a great idea, maybe even including the date, like many "archiving" sites do: articles/2005/topic


So what exactly is a "third-party browser?"
Heh.. I slapped together the articles just so I could put it on the web, and so it would have some content :).

[mburt]

(Yay) I validated it. So it's now HTML 4.01 Transitional.

[Twey]

There really shouldn't be any reason not to use Strict.
The problem with the htaccess suggestion is that my server doesn't allow it.In that case use my second suggestion, having the pages include the template rather than vice versa. It simplifies the process, too.

Hypocrisy, I know, I need to sort out the URLs for my own site soon. I think a full redesign is in order, actually.

[tech_support]

There really shouldn't be any reason not to use Strict.
True. There's only 2 small errors if you validate it with HTML 4.01 Strict.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmburt.mb.funpic.org%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=HTML+4.01+Strict&verbose=1


I think a full redesign is in order, actually.
You should. Your site looks so... technical! :p

[boxxertrumps]

Do you have any new graphics for the site?
The old one doesn't match...
Speaking of graphics... have you used something like pngcrush on your background image?

[Twey]

Unless it's been produced with Photoshop or something, it should already have been optimised.

[mburt]

The "box" background is only 75kb, no big deal. The actual background image is only a 3 x 3 pattern, so that makes it less then a kilobyte.

[mburt]

In that case use my second suggestion, having the pages include the template rather than vice versa. It simplifies the process, too.
What? That would make everything incredibly time consuming.
This is (basically) how my template works:


echo $indent.phpinclude($_GET[$var]);

(phpinclude() = my function to include php files)

So if I wanted to add a file, I would simply upload it to my main folder, or create a subfolder (which would create a link on the site, once clicked, listing the files with a description) and a script would add it manually.

[Twey]

Yeah, I figured that out.

I'm saying that instead, you should have individual files (say, /articles/firefox.php) which do something like:
<?php ob_start(); ?>
<p>Some content, lorem ipsum dolor sit amet and all that...</p>
<?php
$content = ob_get_clean();
$title = 'Firefox vs. IE';
include '/template.php';
?>And in template.php, you might have:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title><?php echo $title; ?></title>
</head>
<body>
<?php echo $content; ?>
</body>
</html>That makes the URLs nicer and solves the problem of when you need more than two levels of directories, in one fell swoop without .htaccess or anything like that being involved.

[mburt]

Oh, I see. That's an interesting idea, but still more work. I'd rather simpy have the file though, and have the index include the template. Easier. If I can get a server with .htaccess files though, the directory thing could work well.

[tech_support]

Your tutorial page doesn't validate (http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http&#37;3A%2F%2Fmburt.mb.funpic.org%2F%3Fq%3Darticles.dir%26sub%3DWYSIWYG_Editors).

[techno_race]

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:D
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[techno_race]

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[Twey]

Being as modern lorem ipsum tends to be randomly-generated, I'm not surprised.

[techno_race]

Each one lion laughter?

It is real Latin; it probably's never heard of most of the words.

I'm not sure what you mean by "random," but if you were saying that

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was randomly-generated, it's not. It's not from one of the normal places; it's the original.

Then again, any "lorem ipsum dolor" stuff isn't modern - they have a newer version. Hang on...

[techno_race]

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[techno_race]

It uses a file structure system, so if I add a folder in the "links" folder, eg. New Folder, it will add to the menu automatically. Then that directory file will read the contents of that folder and put links under the corresponding directory.
Nice. Please tell me how to do that! :)

[Twey]

I'm not sure what you mean by "random," but if you were saying that [snip] was randomly-generated, it's not. It's not from one of the normal places; it's the original.Where did you find it?

[boxxertrumps]

the original lorum ipsum text was from a scroll/book(cant remember exact ally...) of a language similar to Latin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_Ipsum#History_and_discovery