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the-disturbed
10-21-2006, 02:37 AM
BIG PROBLEM here, i use XML in a couple of places on my site (soon to be more), just for neatness sake, it will not show in FF, all i get are the table heads, which don't come from the XML file, the code works great in IE, but i have yet to find any work around for FF, in a previous thread i was involved in, the matter came up the FF does not support XML, i find this hard to believe. any response would be great, i don't need to get this solved, it's just a lame-ass personal webpage, but i would like to get it solved, as i will eventually be doing webdesign in some form as a business, and wanna get as much experience in cross browser design as possible

PS. totally off topic, thought i'd kill to birds with one post, FF doesnt like ActiveX as we all know, yet i have seen embeded video (windows media) play in FF, when i 'click here to install plugin' it says there is no plugin, the embeded video im refering to played in FF on a PC at work, but won't play at home, whats goin on:confused:
Twey
10-21-2006, 11:42 AM
Saying that Firefox doesn't support XML is a very broad statement. It certainly supports several applications of XML (XHTML, RSS, ...); if you want us to be able to identify your problem, you'll have to specify exactly what you were trying to do with XML. XML is just a data format; it doesn't "do" anything by itself.
FF doesnt like ActiveX as we all know, yet i have seen embeded video (windows media) play in FF, when i 'click here to install plugin' it says there is no plugin, the embeded video im refering to played in FF on a PC at work, but won't play at homeIt's probably using the Windows Media Player plugin (or mplayerplug-in if you're on *nix). Do the machines run the same operating system? Do they have the same version of mplayerplug-in or the WMP plugin? Is one 64-bit?
mwinter
10-21-2006, 11:54 AM
BIG PROBLEM here, i use XML in a couple of places on my site (soon to be more), ...

To do what, exactly?



... in a previous thread i was involved in, the matter came up the FF does not support XML, i find this hard to believe.

It would seem that you didn't finish reading that thread.

Firefox does feature an XML processor, and it does support XSLT. However, client-side XSLT should not be used on the Web. There are far too many user agents that don't support it. If you want to use XML to store data and then include that data in a document, perform the transformation on the server and return only HTML to the client.

Mike
blm126
10-21-2006, 03:24 PM
Are you talking about XML data Islands(I think you are)? If you are, then Firefox does not support them. Why? Well, Microsoft made this feature up. It is not standardised anywhere.
the-disturbed
10-21-2006, 06:42 PM
i wasn't very clear, i ment doesn't support displaying XML in a table.


Are you talking about XML data Islands(I think you are)? If you are, then Firefox does not support them. Why? Well, Microsoft made this feature up. It is not standardised anywhere.

that's kinda lame, it's just a table that draws data from an external xml file, am i correct in assuming that alot of people use this to display large amounts of data, without clogging up there html code, if i'm wrong, what "cross browser" method is there (preferably without using databases, i dont wanna have to get into that unless i have to??
Twey
10-21-2006, 07:23 PM
Anything done server-side is cross-browser, and that is the common method of pulling in data from an external file. I've never seen this "XML Data Islands" thing done before.
blm126
10-21-2006, 09:04 PM
Convert the XML, on the server side to html.
Twey:
http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_data_island.asp
the-disturbed
10-21-2006, 09:33 PM
got a link on how to change it on the server side?
Twey
10-21-2006, 10:06 PM
Hm, so it basically works its way up the document tree from the <span> looking for a <td> that it can duplicate? Ugly.

A good idea, but badly implemented.
blm126
10-21-2006, 11:08 PM
A good idea, but badly implemented.
Sort of like all of Microsofts ideas.
the-disturbed
10-22-2006, 12:20 AM
Sort of like all of Microsofts ideas.

ya, like the forced update to IE7, just recently (working in tech support for an ISP.....WE DONT SUPPORT IT YET), windows ME, the list goes on LMAO
djr33
10-22-2006, 03:06 AM
Forced update? how does that work?
the-disturbed
10-22-2006, 03:25 AM
it's in the windows update, all you see is, "updates are ready for your computer would you like to restart", or w/e it says, and after you restart, hey look IE7, god i hate microsoft

not really forced, but to the average idiot, they have no choice
tech_support
10-22-2006, 04:52 AM
it's in the windows update, all you see is, "updates are ready for your computer would you like to restart", or w/e it says, and after you restart, hey look IE7, god i hate microsoft

not really forced, but to the average idiot, they have no choice
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=4516A6F7-5D44-482B-9DBD-869B4A90159C&displaylang=en
the-disturbed
10-22-2006, 08:56 PM
thx tech_support, MS has a habit of doing that, releasing sumthin, then sayin "opps nvm" lmao, im not the one with the problem tho lol, ill get it if i want it, its the noobs with half a brain that dont know anything about computers and refuse to learn that it seems 'forced'
tech_support
10-23-2006, 07:32 AM
Well, according to Microsoft it's a must-have high priority do it or never live again update sort of thing :P
djr33
10-24-2006, 04:50 AM
I hate Microsoft.

Haven't been forced to update yet.

I'll resist.
tech_support
10-24-2006, 05:07 AM
Be prepared, cause 1st of November is the day they'll deploy IE7 via Automatic Updates. It's going to be integrated into XP SP3 anyway.
djr33
10-24-2006, 05:27 AM
Ah. Interesting. Very ew.
tech_support
10-24-2006, 05:28 AM
lol :D. I have IE7 already installed, cause I was part of the Beta testers.
the-disturbed
10-24-2006, 09:07 PM
im have nuthin against IE7 ive had it fer minths myself, but i dont like the fact the MS makes these stupid desisions without consulting anyone, cause when they do this kinda stuff no-one supports it, and no-one wants to pay $45 dollars or w/e it is to get support from MS, ugh i wish i was enough of a geek to use linux LMAO
Twey
10-24-2006, 09:12 PM
They're a big evil corporation, it's sort of expected of them :p I thought support was included with a copy of Windows?

Since when did one have to be a geek to use Linux? Get one of the user-friendly distributions like Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/), openSUSE (http://www.opensuse.org/), or Fedora (http://fedora.redhat.com/).
the-disturbed
10-24-2006, 09:52 PM
Ubuntu, openSUSE, or Fedora.

which of the three would you recommend, i've thought about getting linux