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codeexploiter
09-15-2006, 10:19 AM
Hi all,
which is your favourite scripting (server-side/client-side) / Programming language you love for the coding.
I am expecting a good response from you people :)
Funnycoolstuff
09-15-2006, 11:13 AM
For me, have to be PHP and ASP :)
:D
mwinter
09-15-2006, 02:05 PM
I would agree with Twey. PHP sucks as a language. ASP might be OK (haven't really looked at it), but you wouldn't catch me using VBScript with it. I would put Python in the running, too, though I'm not sure if it has enough existing code to be quite as useful as Java.
Mike
I've meant to learn Python for a long time.
blm126
09-15-2006, 07:27 PM
PHP wins by default for me.
ItsMeOnly
09-15-2006, 07:30 PM
PHP, followed by Perl
former by "BASICness", latter by expandability
BLiZZaRD
09-21-2006, 11:18 AM
Does Flash count? The AS language is similar to JS, but the set up and ablility to click on things and then tell just that item what to do, one at a time, or in a group is nice.
Plus you get to look at the graphics as you create instead of notepad :p
It also has fool-proof checks as well, and no need to upload to a server or move to a different folder to test it, and you get error reports that tell you exactly what is wrong, not just error on line 345 :D
Plus the ability to read and write makes utilizing PHP and SQL and JS and ASP and almost any other language easy...
Yeah, my vote is for Flash
mburt
09-21-2006, 08:10 PM
Hmm... It's hard for me to say. Does JavaScript count? Anyway, if it doesn't I really like Java; simple to use, great results. I find PHP kind of strange though...
blm126
09-21-2006, 08:23 PM
The AS language is similar to JS
Both are derived from ECMAscript,I believe.
tech_support
09-22-2006, 07:42 AM
PHP cause it's free :p and Visual Basic
Ugh, Visual Basic. Does portability mean nothing to people these days?
BLiZZaRD
09-22-2006, 09:34 AM
I used a portability the other day at a construction site... it was stinky in there!! WOOOOO
:D
mwinter
09-22-2006, 12:52 PM
Ugh, Visual Basic. Does portability mean nothing to people these days?
Portability doesn't enter into it: Visual Basic is just an ugly language!
Mike
Actually, I recently saw this article (http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000648.html). While VB may have been the first to develop it, I hardly think this easy access to databases was a revolutionary idea; I'd imagine (though I may well be historically inaccurate) that it was under development (or possibly still in the concept stage) in Java at around the same time.
tech_support
09-23-2006, 04:48 AM
Well, I am learning Visual C# and Visual Basic isin't that bad of a language.
djr33
09-23-2006, 07:53 AM
I'd say PHP.
Can't compare it too much, but I really like what it can do.
I also like programming on TI calculators, but that's somewhat off topic, though it IS helpful in class when you don't want to do any work.
Birmingham
09-23-2006, 12:03 PM
PHP, followed by Perl
former by "BASICness", latter by expandability
copy that :p
Well, I am learning Visual C#C# is a bad Java clone with less platform-independence and more licensing issues :)
Visual Basic isin't that bad of a language.Oh, yes it is. It has no objects except form controls, and not only does it compile and run on no other platforms than Windows, it doesn't always run on different versions of Windows -- or even the same version, if the user doesn't have precisely the right version of VBRUN24534591.DLL installed. Even Microsoft don't support it any more. VB.NET may be better; I haven't tried it.
mwinter
09-23-2006, 08:37 PM
C# is a bad Java clone with less platform-independence and more licensing issues :)
It's good for interacting with .NET, though. I prefer it for that purpose compared to C++, though mainly because it seems dirty to start using features like __gc, __sealed, and __finally in the latter.
[On VB] It has no objects except form controls ...
I'm not entirely sure about that, but I don't have Visual Studio 6, or its version of the MSDN Library. I'm sure I remember it having OO features, though not all versions have.
VB.NET may be better; I haven't tried it.
What's your opinion of .NET? As far as I can see, aside from its built-in types, it relies on that for providing any real functionality.
Mike
Sikky
09-23-2006, 09:26 PM
Well in this case I will go with the ActionScripting guy though I might as well say JavaScript.
It's good for interacting with .NET, though.Obviously a .NET language will be better at interacting with .NET.
I'm sure I remember it having OO features, though not all versions have.No, the only things that are allowed to be objects are form controls. I have far more experience with VB6 than I'd like.
What's your opinion of .NET? As far as I can see, aside from its built-in types, it relies on that for providing any real functionality.Over-hyped. It's a fairly decent idea, and Microsoft do seem to have avoided much of Java's bloat, but the main advantage of a virtual machine is that it should run on anything. There are several things that prevent this from happening with .NET:Its inbuilt functionality is heavily Windows-oriented, as is evidenced by the inbuilt System.Registry object, Mono is far from useable, and licensing issues may prevent it (Mono) from ever becoming finished. Microsoft legally released only a portion of the .NET framework to potential developers for other platforms, and while they haven't attacked yet, it's considered a pretty likely outcome; Fedora, for example, wouldn't include Mono with its distribution due to potential legal issues.Then again, I only delved into C# for a month or two before becoming disillusioned and leaving it. I could well be wrong, and if anybody here is more widely versed in .NET, I invite them to present the other side of the argument.
Birmingham
09-24-2006, 03:06 PM
i think the argument for C# over some higher level languages would be that the programs run more efficiently when they're eventually written. I've had a little look into C and it seems to have good memory management capabilities. Assembly would of course be even more efficient when run because it's so low.
I've stepped into a tiny bit of java too and i was impressed by the functionality of objects. how much more platform independent is java than c# or other languages? what can java do easier than other languages?
C# is a very high-level language. Don't confuse it with C.
Birmingham
09-24-2006, 04:36 PM
C# is a very high-level language. Don't confuse it with C.
is C# higher level than C++ ?
Yes. As I said, it's more similar to Java.
how much more platform independent is java than c# or other languages?Theoretically, it'll run on anything with a Java VM, which currently includes just about every modern operating system in existence. However, occasionally it becomes necessary to write something natively, which would mean that one has to port the code to each platform just as with a natively-compiled language.
what can java do easier than other languages?Some things. Database interaction (JDBC), distributed computing, cryptographic, and multilingual features are already into the standard libraries.
mburt
09-24-2006, 05:18 PM
is C# higher level than C++ ?
I'm sort of confused :p When you say "higher level" what exactly do you mean?
In this case, I'd hazard a guess at "further removed from the hardware."
mburt
09-24-2006, 05:22 PM
Ah, I see.
mwinter
09-24-2006, 05:57 PM
No, the only things that are allowed to be objects are form controls.
If you say so. I was sure that with class modules, one can create user-defined objects, as well as forms and the like.
Its inbuilt functionality is heavily Windows-oriented, as is evidenced by the inbuilt System.Registry object
Methods related to GDI handles would have been a better example. The Registry class is in the Microsoft.Win32 namespace, and the concept of a registry is hardly limited to Windows. Any platform that has permanent storage could implement the idea, whether it be using XML, a database, or a custom binary format.
Even the GDI handles aren't necessarily a big deal. They shouldn't be necessary (haven't looked at graphics in .NET) for "managed" code, and other GUI systems may have analogues.
Mono is far from useable
That's not a fault of .NET itself, though. :)
Mike
That's not a fault of .NET itself, though.Hm, yes, maybe I should have merged the second and third points :)
and the concept of a registry is hardly limited to Windows.Thinking about it. gconf and the like exist, I suppose.
codeexploiter
09-26-2006, 07:25 AM
Well in my case i used to develop the applications earlier using Java now started to concentrate on web scripting.
But now i am really confused about the fact that should i give importance to Java application developments or .Net base technologies (C#, VB.NET)?
:confused:
Java's definitely the safer bet.
Regardless of these facts and the origins of these languages, I have never coded in JS, and feel comfortable in AS.
Add Your Sick Webmaster ScriptsEh? Is that something like a doctor's note?
mburt
09-29-2006, 11:57 AM
It's slang for "add your good webmaster scripts" :) I feel all gangsta now...
Oh, no cyber-hospitals involved then?
In my knowledge of slang, "sick" means something that's disgusting, foul, too unpleasant to even think about.
mburt
09-29-2006, 05:05 PM
Listen... I'm a teenager. I hear it all the time, it generally means crazy, wild, nuts. Anything really :p
Lol, OK, I'll take your word for it.
djr33
09-29-2006, 10:01 PM
Sick can mean cool. It can also mean disgusting.
It's like "bad". You never really know what it means.
djr33
09-29-2006, 11:54 PM
I think the least clear word is perhaps "bomb".
The Bomb, or perhaps Da Bomb is a phrase meaning the coolest thing.
However, as a verb, bomb means to fail.
And there are other uses.
Sikky
10-01-2006, 01:10 PM
Be sure not to mention the word "Bomb" around an american airport you might end up in jail for a year or even some horrible place. God knows where. :(
Heh, British airports are almost as bad: an Italian guy made a joke about having a machine gun in his violin case (à la Al Capone) and got arrested.
Mike77
10-10-2006, 12:23 PM
Now it's PHP, but I'm newbie and I don't know what language would be better to learn else.
I've been doing a lot of Python recently. I think it currently wins "best scripting language" for me.
mwinter
10-10-2006, 06:49 PM
I've been doing a lot of Python recently. I think it currently wins "best scripting language" for me.
Finally got around to it, then? :)
I still haven't got to JSP - I was hoping to find some decent, official introductory material, but I don't remember finding much (was a while since I looked). I dislike going to third-parties for that sort of information, though I found more information on the PHP SPL in a book than I did in the PHP manual.
Mike
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